#announcements (2018-12)

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hey everyone give a warm welcome to @farias.santos.dev! Good to have you here

hey @fernando!

Hi there!

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @arwin.tugade! Good to have you here

Hey @arwin.tugade !

Let’s continue the discussion in #atlantis

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hey everyone give a warm welcome to @pablo! Good to have you here

Hello everyone, excited to have come across SweetOps. I have a ton of questions

hey @pablo!

welcome we’re here to help answer those questions…

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @rontron! Good to have you here

welcome @rontron

sup gang

Hey there!

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @haba! Good to have you here

hey @haba!

Hello @haba & @rontron

Hey all again

So I’m just sitting back and brainstorming a way to replicate Heroku review apps on aws.

I think that I don’t want to use ECS as that adds some unnecessary complexity?

oh, we have that

for Kubernetes

so im left to either fargate, or homebrewed ec2 machine to host docker containers..

we don’t use kub8s here. small beans haha

to me, it sounds like the first step is to create a heroku like environment

then review apps is an afterthought

e.g. ECS and Kubernetes afford that.

well we use elastic beanstalk for production

and yeah im starting to think ecs might be

it

Beanstalk is like deploying a cluster for every app, while ECS is like deploying every app on a cluster

exactly why i want to avoid beanstalk. got no business there lol

checkout #airship

@maarten might have some ideas for how to achieve what you want to do

k going there. thanks

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @jonleibowitz! Good to have you here

Hi I’m an angeleno, found this community via meetup.com (I’m also looking for interesting meetups near sfv/sgv/northeast los angeles area)

hey @jonleibowitz

https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/vault-1-0

Btw

Quick question to @here does the Cloudtrail Module support setting the SNS settings? and is that really needed, just have not used it….

let’s move to #terraform

Don’t know if I shared this, but I put together some helm stats a few weeks ago - https://github.com/sstarcher/helm-exporter

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @patrickleet! Good to have you here

Hi @patrickleet!

@patrickleet welcome

hey @patrickleet! let’s see if we can fix your terraform issues

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) I can’t scroll on this page. Is it just me?

https://cloudposse.com/contact/

no, it’s broken

waiting on my UX guy to give me the fix or any of you CSS whizes

it’s related to the Hubspot iframe for the contact form

it’s the overflow: auto rule on the body element. turning that off seems to fix it.

(…testing…)

that’s totally it @daveyu

apparently it’s calendly doing it

https://help.calendly.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/115004353373-Fix-for-broken-scroll-navigation-when-Calendly-external-css-is-added

that fix worked. all good! you guys rock

Does any one see this metaphor ?

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/18/servers_pets_or_cattle_cern/

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @deftunix! Good to have you here

Really warm welcome to @deftunix ! I invited him here, because you guys can be helpful. :)

thank you very much @antonbabenko

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @eightnoteight! Good to have you here

welcome

hey, so what do you guys think about https://www.pulumi.com/

do you think it’s good alternative to terraform, it’s becoming so painful to add any kind of logic to our terraform

welcome

So I would, just based on my terraform history, expect that if adding logic is becoming hard that probably the methodology yiu are using could be the issue

What sorta pain are you running into?

uh, some of the issues are like no count on module, nested modules are getting hard given the fact that terraform doesn’t support passing variables with data type of map[string]interface{} but only map[string]string

without the nested module, some of the important modules which would other wise be composed of modules had to be written as resources or by playing the composition from the top level instead at module level

mmm, have you got an example you can share?

uh, to be precise this is the exact issue we are facing https://github.com/hashicorp/terraform/issues/18322

yo, sorry was in a meeting

Ah I see

current TF does not support objects, but an object (e.g. a map with multiple types) could be split up into a few vars with types that TF supports - annoying but not a game stopper

https://status.github.com/messages

yeah, time to go home

i had to click two times on some buttons in the UI to get a result

github is SPOF now

It was Micro$ofted

I knew I should not have pressed that button :)

Pulumi is pretty interesting. Doesn’t have half the community TF currently has but it is nice to have a proper language rather than HCL…

Adding logic isn’t Terraform strong point

yea pulumi looks nice. wondering how much effort and pain/bugs would it be to use it on real stuff (not just the basic examples like S3 buckets)

I recall the very early days of terraform

before any form of state backend

and locking

and being able to sleep at night

.<

hmm, it can even deploy helm charts using same language https://github.com/pulumi/pulumi-eks

that’s actually very nice

on the other hand, I just subscribed to pulumi-community Slack, and I see this:

@eightnoteight I believe both of those issues are resolved in 0.12

Terraform 0.12 goes a long way toward fixing some of the pains of terraform

Like making a default nilable, native support for the language, dynamic block structures, etc

https://www.terraform.io/upgrade-guides/0-12.html

a better list - https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/terraform-0-1-2-preview

short circuit conditionals

Aye, looking forward to use when non preview. Hopefully upgrade path isn’t like pulling teeth as we all undo some of our workarounds

ya, we shall see

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Mark Thomas! Good to have you here

@Mark Thomas welcome to the club

hey @mark! have a look around. let me know if you’re stuck on something.

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i think it was @Mark Thomas but welcome to all Marks

hahah

man, i always do that. autocomplete fail.

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @sohel2020! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @chinmaygupta28! Good to have you here

Hi @chinmaygupta28

No worries

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) created a new channel #kubecon. Join if this sounds interesting!

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @jdolitsky! Good to have you here

whoot! hey @jdolitsky checkout #kubecon

Have we helped you in some way? We’d love to know! If you could leave us a testimonial it would make our day.

Wow where am I

haha only the best place ever.

@dustinvb can fill you in - but this is our slack community for all the cloudposse projects and generally people doing awesome things with terraform, kubernetes, helm, kops, ecs, etc.

as you might have seen, we have a lot of projects on https://github.com/cloudposse; this is where the community for that hangs out.

hell yea!

#sweetops

Welcome @jdolitsky it’s a great community!

Hi! Good, I’ve been looking for a great community

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @richwine! Good to have you here

welcome @richwine !

Hey there! (it’s pretty quiet here on the weekends…)

hey guys, thanks for the welcome! and yeah, I figured. I’m normally not in front of a computer on a Sat but special exceptions today hehe

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Ken! Good to have you here

@Ken

Hi !! I’m DevOps Engineer.

If you are looking at how to implement AWS CodeBuild I found this repository so I joined the slack team https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-aws-codebuild

nice to meet you

Hey @Ken glad you stopped by

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @fcohermoso! Good to have you here

Hi all, I’m not a DevOps engineer, but I’m fascinated about this. I’m sure I’ll enjoy here.

Welcome to the club, @fcohermoso. I’m not DevOps Engineer either, but I really like the DevOps world and this community is so helpful

Welcome, I’m a SRE that implements devops

this is a cool place

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hey everyone give a warm welcome to @codedworks! Good to have you here

Welcome @codedworks

hi

hey @codedworks!

Thanks for the welcome

https://github.com/Praqma/helmsman/blob/master/README.md

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @BhushanPatil! Good to have you here

welcome

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Andrii! Good to have you here

welcome @BhushanPatil and @Andrii!

Thanks

where are you from @Andrii?

Ukraine, Kharkov

no way! I lived in Kharkov for 10 years

@antonbabenko lived there as well

Wow! Kharkov I’ve just returned from XPDays Kiev.

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @ikar! Good to have you here

oh, thanks bot! hi everyone

mac pro or windows pc?

?

depends, for general dev work I would always say macbook

devops role

im a windows guy

and im nervous about going into the mac space

even though alot of documentation

out there makes it seem a bit easier

just to run curl commands and whatever

So being a former windows server guy and using windows at home for 3d modeling/gaming/vr

I love osx for work

teh tool options available are just so far beyond whats there for windows

I recently did exactly that, tested a dev env on windows, linux and osx

and im happily staying osx

yea i just dont want to get stuck with one and then be like oh man

if I could only pick one it would be osx

Apple has gone downhill over the last few years

pixelbook is an option too lol

windows mac or pixelbook

i like using windows and WSL

can test linux code paths and windows code paths on the same box, pretty sweet

i still prefer apple’s hardware over anything else i’ve tried, so i actually run windows on a macbook using bootcamp

best of all worlds

it looks like running minikube and docker and whatnot

would be easier on mac

many things are easier and faster on mac

as @loren mentioned, you can run Windows on mac in parallels or from bootcamp

https://techcrunch.com/2018/12/12/oracle-is-suing-the-u-s-government-over-10b-pentagon-jedi-cloud-contract-process/

Is anyone using the Oracle cloud?

ENTERPRISE!!!

I am in my 20s… Isn’t Oracle the company that has that language which makes all those terrible looking UI Applications? Bet they run their cloud in AWS ha ha…

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) created a new channel #kops. Join if this sounds interesting!

How can I know all channels ?

I think if you click on “Channels” in the top-left, you’ll get a directory

thank you

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @HoneyBadger! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @joppa27! Good to have you here

Welcome @HoneyBadger and @joppa27

hey guys! have a look around. #terraform is our most popular channel

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @sahil! Good to have you here

hi @sahil

Thank you for your warm welcome

Hey @sahil! what are you working on?

Hi @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)! I’m a backend developer at a life sciences start-up. Recently started working with Terraform and reached here

Oh cool! You’re on the right track then…

Yay!

checkout #terraform

Yep, joined!

hi everyone, I am looking for a kubernetes consultant company in london focused on DevOps and development activities on kubernetes. do you have any suggestion?

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @fii! Good to have you here

Welcome @fii

hey @fii!

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @jeffrey! Good to have you here

Does anyone run k8 on bare metal? I’ve been working on getting Matchbox and iPXE working without success. If others here play with bare metal provisioning I’d love to start a channel. https://github.com/coreos/matchbox

@davidvasandani have a look at https://github.com/gravitational/gravity

It was originally designed for extremely secure, airgapped environments

but has since added support for public cloud

and is also now open source (enterprise genesis)

Thanks @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) but I’m looking for something that will automatically provision the bare metal host (Matchbox).

ohh - yea, that’s not something I am familiar with.

maybe https://maas.io/?

Thanks @loren

in a prior life, i had a PXE/DHCP setup working with VMware ESXi, but it was occasionally fragile and i wasn’t confident in our ability to keep it working if we scaled it to prod

#thankyoucloud

I didn’t know Travis CI open sources most/all of their infra code (like Gitlab). Kinda cool of them e.g.

<https://github.com/travis-ci/terraform-config>
<https://github.com/travis-ci/travis-cookbooks>
<https://gitlab.com/gitlab-com/gl-infra>

Any other shops with reasonably medium/biggish fleets that do the same? I actually love looking thru how other folks organize their stuff. Usually learn a few things too

https://github.com/segmentio/stack

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Andrew Best! Good to have you here

welcome @Andrew Best!

https://github.com/grafana/loki

Hey guys! I have a PR describing our proposal for automated integration testing of terraform, kops, helm, helmfile, etc. This is an early draft. Putting this out there to solicit some feedback or learn about things we hadn’t considered. https://github.com/cloudposse/docs/pull/329

It’s current form, it’s more about describing the “lay of the land” and why we’re learning towards bats. I think no matter what we choose, it will be somewhat controversial.

@maarten @markmutti @Daren @jamie @davidvasandani @tamsky @Jan @michal.matyjek @maarten

@chris

@Daren^^^^

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @shanelhale! Good to have you here

hey @shanelhale! welcome to the club

Couple thoughts:

• weigh the benefit of a single test solution vs the cost and limitations of a generalized solution
• often using what is the de-facto framework used by that tools community means you can carry over the same knowledge and skills. You can also leverage the existing test patterns and libraries

I haven’t looked yet Erik. Does it include the current state of the art?

Just landed in Thailand, will look tomorrow

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @jonathan.otto! Good to have you here

anyone working with Vagrant windows guests? I’m still very new to Vagrant and have a few likely novice questions about shell and provisioning.

I’ve only used it with Linux

a few windows users here though, so might get a response later on in the day

Nw @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse), you may know anyway… I’ll leave the question here for anyone. I’m a *nix man myself as well but the current scenario is with windows. When I vagrant ssh I’m not sure what “shell” I’m in. CMD or Powershell? Other then that… I’ve some very specific questions around how to learn provisioning of things like Chocolatey etc.

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hey everyone give a warm welcome to @samant.maharaj! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @jurgen! Good to have you here

welcome @samant.maharaj and @jurgen !

have a look around… lots of channels

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Justin! Good to have you here

hey @Justin! what’s crackin?

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Trex! Good to have you here

Hi Everyone! I’ve finished documenting the Airship ECS Modules I’ve created at Blinkist and polished together with @jonboulle and @jamie during my freelancer jobs after.

https://airship.tf/

It’s not kubernetes, it will never be kubernetes But it’s easy to deploy and works great for teams who need to work with Terraform and want to move away from ElasticBeanstalk, and PaaSes.

Also! I’m not a writer by nature, and this is my first website, if you see something you don’t like, let me know!

Great work!

this documentation is epic @maarten @jonboulle @jamie!

the most documented terraform module in the history of the internet!

Well done! It looks amazing

it’s like terraform apps have reached a new milestone where there’s a full fledged application written in HCL.

not just some piece of the puzzle

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @niek! Good to have you here

welcome @niek

Thx

Happy to join the community

good to have ya! what are you working on?

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) Due a lot of travelling not that busy my git last months. But in general my blog (http://040code.github.io), some terraform modules, e.g. the one for gitlab-ci-runners (aws) keeps me busy and speaking a few times a year. In daytime I spend my days in Philips Research. Advocating Cloud, CI/CD practices, IaC, all kind of back-end and front-ends. The few hours left I love to travel and cook. So that is me in just a few words

wow, great bio @niek

I think we should start a new practice like this!

where are you based?

Centrum, Eindhoven, Brabant, The Netherlands, Europe, Planet Earth, ?

haha, that’s pretty precise

we’ve really picked up quite few folks now in europe

Cool, where are you based?

Just browsing your modules (cloudposse) see many similarities

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Danie Z.! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Joe Presley! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @pauljbrice! Good to have you here

wow! welcome guys…

Hi @niek. Good to know that I got two-stars on my talk at FullStackFest 2017 - https://040code.github.io/2017/09/05/fsf-backend/ I’ve improved my skills since then

@antonbabenko Oops So I make a good first impression … Nothing personal as we mentioned And maybe I and my fired where all ready on par for terraform

np, it is always good to get ALL feedback than NONE

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Sean! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @rene.eckstein! Good to have you here

Welcome @Sean and @rene.eckstein! Have a look around… we have a lot of topical channels. #terraform is our most popular one.

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @warrenvw! Good to have you here

This is pretty nifty https://itnext.io/building-a-kubernetes-hybrid-cloud-with-terraform-fe15164b35fb

Also https://skaffold.dev

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Kostis (Codefresh)! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Oleg Sucharevich! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @alicia_nickiw! Good to have you here

Everyone welcome @alicia_nickiw who will be helping us keep our #docs up to date

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) thanks Erik and hi everyone!

welcome @alicia_nickiw

@here Just wanted to take a moment and wish everyone in this wonderful community a safe and joyful holiday season! Please, please if you can, take a break from tech, and comeback recharged. This is what life has taught me last 16 years of consulting. It really does work. Happy Holidays!

Thank you, Happy Holidays!

Happy Holidays to you too!

Well put @OScar! Happy holidays everyone I’m so grateful for everyone’s participation and contributions this year. We’re going to be growing fast! Hold on tight…

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @timo! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @russell.t.sherman! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Sanjay! Good to have you here

Welcome @timo @russell.t.sherman @Sanjay!

hey ya’ll! thanks for stopping by…

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @itaydj! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @federico.almada! Good to have you here

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hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Sean Holmes! Good to have you here

hey @itaydj @federico.almada @Igor @Sean Holmes! Welcome! It’s pretty quiet here over the weekends and due to the holidays.

Hi thanks @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Hey, thanks for the welcome @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Welcome folks :)

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Vijay! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Kinnaird McQuade! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @kmcquade! Good to have you here

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hey everyone give a warm welcome to @msk! Good to have you here

Welcome @msk, @Vijay and @Kinnaird McQuade ! Still pretty quiet here as we enjoy the holidays :-)

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Chander Prabh Jain! Good to have you here

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @Shehr! Good to have you here

welcome @Chander Prabh Jain and @Shehr, what are you working on?

People anyone got affected by this? https://old.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/a9z6tb/centurylink_outage_west_coast/

it looks like EU was ok

We got hit hard by that with our Cisco phone channels

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @jbye! Good to have you here

Hey all! We were looking at Gruntwork and their reference architecture, but I just stumbled across CloudPosse and was curious how it compares.

Hey @jbye - let’s move to #geodesic

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @james! Good to have you here

Hey @james ! Welcome…

hey everyone give a warm welcome to @wannafly37! Good to have you here

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