#general (2020-07)

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2020-07-31

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2020-07-30

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2020-07-29

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I recently discovered you folks by the terraform modules and they’re helping me a lot, awesome quality! Never saw something with this level of quality before. Enjoying a lot the learning opportunities in #office-hours as well

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2020-07-28

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2020-07-27

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2020-07-25

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2020-07-24

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Ameya Agashe

Hello if anyone wants to appear for AZ-103 exam, please feel free to contact me. I want to transfer my code to anyone who wants to or is willing to purchase. No GST cost so that is direct 10% savings

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Thx a lot for the opportunity… very good contents

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Thx for the welcome bot

2020-07-23

RB avatar

does anyone use some kind of self hosted code searching tool? looking at opengrok but also see others like hound (4.4k stars) and google code search (2.4k stars)

https://github.com/hound-search/hound

https://github.com/google/codesearch

hound-search/hound

Lightning fast code searching made easy. Contribute to hound-search/hound development by creating an account on GitHub.

google/codesearch

Fast, indexed regexp search over large file trees. Contribute to google/codesearch development by creating an account on GitHub.

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Pedro Henriques

Thank you

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Jon Murillo

Thanks!

2020-07-22

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Hi Everyone

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Reet Chowdhary

Hi everyone!

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roth.andy
07:10:19 PM

hello

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Reet Chowdhary

hey Andrew looking to learn more about the latest and greatest in devops including build, deployments, CI/CD etc. Been reading a lot and wanted to discuss ideas with folks here. Is general the right channel? what other channels are good for having those discussions?

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roth.andy

#release-engineering would be a good fit

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anyone have experience running opengrok ?

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we’re doing a hackweek at my company and were attempting to do the following…

  • custom image using opengrok official image
  • ldap authentication
  • running docker image on an ec2
  • mount efs volume on the ec2 for storage of the repositories
  • asg to increase instances
  • alb + tg + route53

the above is for testing purposes. once everything is ironed out, the plan is to move it to ecs to scale it up if necessary

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does this make sense?

2020-07-21

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Hi everyone!

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07:15:34 PM

hello

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Josh Duffney
Change Advisory Boards Don’t Work - Octopus Deploy

Proper scrutiny is important, but CABs are an inefficient and ineffective way to scrutinize.

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Josh Duffney

For everyone’s enjoyment that has to work with CABs

Change Advisory Boards Don’t Work - Octopus Deploy

Proper scrutiny is important, but CABs are an inefficient and ineffective way to scrutinize.

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Chris Wahl

Thank you for sharing. Always a good sign when an article opens with a reference to Nicole Forsgren’s work.

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2020-07-20

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2020-07-19

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2020-07-18

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2020-07-17

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roth.andy

THREAD: I’m being asked for “hard” reasons for why I might need a Mac over Windows for software development. Things like specific examples of necessary/beneficial tools that are not supported on Windows, etc.

I’d love some feedback, even if your belief is that there aren’t any.

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roth.andy

“semi-hard” reason that I can think of: Because our production environment is on Linux, using a *NIX operating system means more environment parity when doing development

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Jonathan Marcus

I think that’s not a very strong reason anymore. WSL and WSL2 has made Windows much more compatible than before. Also it’s easy to get a Digital Ocean droplet and then use VSCode over SSH so that your dev env can be very close to prod. If you want exact parity, then I’d say to use containers for both dev and prod, and that’s (almost) totally OS-independent.

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Jonathan Marcus

Devs at our company are mixed between Windows, Mac, and Linux without much of a difference. I think that software is pretty compatible across the board, it’s just a question of which hardware you prefer. And that’s not a very “hard” reason.

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roth.andy

@ good points all around. The problem that I’m having is that we have a few hundred people who have begged, borrowed, or stolen the ability to use a mac, and the company is now finally trying to decide whether to allow the user to choose, or to force everyone to use Windows.

Personally, I feel (and am) WAAAAY more productive on a mac than I do on Windows, but that isn’t a good enough reason for them.

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roth.andy

They are also only looking at the cost of the hardware, rather than Total Cost of Ownership, which hard research has shown to be less expensive for mac than windows

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Craig Dunford

Nearly all of our employee workstations are Windows, while we deploy our server software on *nix. I agree with the point that WSL(2) is starting to make the difference closer to 0. The topic is basically a non-starter at our org because we our IT manages group policy, AV, software deployment, etc for the Windows fleet of machines and have really no clue how to manage anything else.

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loren

yeah, between WSL and remote ssh integration in an editor, developing for linux systems is very easy on windows

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loren

i actually thinks windows is a better developer experience for me than mac ever was. don’t miss it in the slightest

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Craig Dunford

Given the choice I would have a linux box, but I understand our org’s desire to be able to manage a homogeneous fleet of workstations. Windows seems to often be the enterprise choice as Microsoft offers decent enterprise support

loren avatar
loren

i am absolutely all about user choice though. if you prefer mac and feel more productive with it, that’s the end of the discussion for me

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Jonathan Marcus avatar
Jonathan Marcus

I disagree. I think that the same benefits of standardization that come with containers applies here. A unified fleet of workstations presents a much smaller support footprint on the IT team and a much smaller security burden as well. It’s clearly something that has to be balanced against user happiness & productivity, but there are strong arguments for homogeneity.

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roth.andy

I’m glad I’m stimulating interesting conversation

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roth.andy

Keep it coming

loren avatar
loren

no doubt, user choice makes things much more difficult for a central IT team. that’s why i’ll never again work for a company with a central IT team

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Craig Dunford

indeed - it is ultimately up to the employee if they want to deal with the way the org works

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shamil.kashmeri
WSL and WSL2 has made Windows much more compatible than before.  

I disagree, theres no way you can compare this to using linux imo, wsl2 is basically just a vm if im not mistaken, and worse you end up having to do hacky workarounds to get things to work, i cant see any reason to be forced into using a windoze laptop to work on applications that are deployed to linux.

Also it's easy to get a Digital Ocean droplet and then use VSCode over SSH

I cant imagine having to spin up a DO droplet to work over ssh, why? just get the right tool for the job. </two-cents>

Emmanuel Gelati avatar
Emmanuel Gelati

In WSL docker doesn’t works and snapd

loren avatar
loren

Docker works fine for me in WSL

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Emmanuel Gelati

I am using debian in WSL and it doesn’t starts

Jonathan Marcus avatar
Jonathan Marcus

@ You make good points. I just think that, more than ever before:

• All the major OSes are pretty similar.

• Most apps are web-based and work on all OSes.

• There are free tools like VSCode that work equally well over SSH or in containers, allowing any differences can be easily overcome.

• Cloud computing and containers mean that you can do a lot of computing in any environment regardless of what desktop you run. Within the last two years I’ve used Linux, Windows, and Mac, and the transitions were all really easy. Ten years ago I had very strong opinions on which OS was better, and I’d have completely agreed with you. These days? I think they’re all interchangeable.

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shamil.kashmeri avatar
shamil.kashmeri
All the major OSes are pretty similar.

I wouldnt agree there at all, the OP is looking to give reasons to his workplace to work on a mac or god forbid a linux laptop, to say that they are all the same just use windows and wsl2 youll be fine or use vscode on windows with ssh to a cloud instance to me is a secondary solution to using linux or macos. No weird networking/fs/package issues is a big reason, running docker in vms locally is kind of a silly thing too imo. Sure, WSL2 has come along way, but its not linux and not mac os.

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Jonathan Le

I’m sort thinking about switching from Mac back to Windows, unless my company gets me the latest models of the Macbook Pro (16”). I’ve been battling with the thermal throttling of the Macbooks for years and I freaking hate it.

There’s certain apps and frameworks I love on Mac (brew, iTerm2), but I recently started gaming again and Windows 10 is a pleasure to use.

If you’re more productive on a Mac and they have a Mac policy, it’s dumb they don’t let you have one.

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Jonathan Marcus

You’re absolutely right. I think that the case against Windows is so strong and commonly accepted that I’m just trying to present that underappreciated case that Windows ain’t so bad. I also have a lot of sympathy for IT people who have to support their coworkers - every different deployment causes new and different headaches for them - so I’m trying to nudge in favor of making fewer unnecessary waves.

But if you want reasons to use native Linux, there are plenty:

apt-get or yum is loads better than any Mac or Windows package manager (I’ve never liked brew but maybe it’s good? even the name, “homebrew”, really does not inspire confidence that you’re downloading reliable software)

• If you care about performance you don’t want virtualization. I used to low-latency and HPC development and VMs were a total non-starter.

• Your servers run Linux and you should have a dev env that matches them exactly. If they use containers then you’re fine, but if they don’t you better have Linux on your dev box. I’m currently a Mac user myself (love my MBP 16”), but I’m not sure what the arguments are for Mac over Windows. Docker still runs in a VM for me.

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loren

On windows, scoop has been a brilliant package manager, for my usage. It is like brew, but with the key difference that it supports pkg versions out of the gate

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2020-07-16

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hello guys

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glad to be here

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Emmanuel Gelati

Hello, How could I generate the prometheus rules to multi cluster with https://github.com/kubernetes-monitoring/kubernetes-mixin ?

kubernetes-monitoring/kubernetes-mixin

A set of Grafana dashboards and Prometheus alerts for Kubernetes. - kubernetes-monitoring/kubernetes-mixin

2020-07-15

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Hello Everyone

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2020-07-14

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2020-07-13

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Hi Everyone, thanks for the Sweet community

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2020-07-12

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Hello all. Good to be here.

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2020-07-11

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2020-07-10

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2020-07-09

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Alan Kis

Hi, greetings from Berlin, Germany. I am following CloudPosse now for some time, and I have to admit you have built quite a community here.

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@ appreciate the shoutout! Wow, we have a quite a few members now from Germany.

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maarten

Berlin’s mascotte is a bear, quite a few from Berlin

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Alan Kis

@maarten The city name has the different origins (it is not coming from the bear), but from how similar the name of the city, the start of the name sounds to German word for bear, the bear as official city mascotte entered the history

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Prasanna

Hi .. I am Prasanna, Devops Engineer from India. Great to be part of the community, I love the opensource contribution from you. Thanks @sweetops556 for the effort !!!

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2020-07-08

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2020-07-07

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2020-07-06

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2020-07-05

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Thanks

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Hi everyone! I am from India. Nice to meet you!

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2020-07-04

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2020-07-03

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Karoline Pauls

is docker-compose still the gold standard for running services in development environments?

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

I wouldn’t say gold standard, but the most understood mode of development. I’ve seen many nice alternatives, but seldom used in practice. there are a few opinionated solutions around “minikube” (conceptually meaning k8s local). For some reason every projects name escapes me.

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They’ve come up every now and then on sweetops

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Tilt

Kubernetes for Prod, Tilt for Dev

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

that’s one..

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Karoline Pauls

all that i really need is a multi-platform way to run Docker containers with –network=host for now

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Karoline Pauls

i’d just run docker from systemd but there are people who use windows/mac, which is a PiTA

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

ya, nothing wrong with sticking with docker-compose. we use it all the time in client engagements.

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Tim Birkett

Has anyone tried “Lando”? https://lando.dev/ it looks quite interesting.

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Kostis (Codefresh)

@Karoline Pauls Apart from tilt you should also take a look at okteto, garden.io> and skaffold <https://codefresh.io/kubernetes-tutorial/local-k8s-draft-skaffold-garden/

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i went with docker-compose

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Hi guys! I’m from Colombia! Nice to meet you!

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2020-07-02

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Hello from Bogota, Colombia, is a pleasure to share time and knowledge with this vibrant community about DevOps

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2020-07-01

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