#kubernetes (2018-08)
Archive: https://archive.sweetops.com/kubernetes/
2018-08-01
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2018-08-03
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eksctl - a CLI for Amazon EKS
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2018-08-05
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/kind bug What happened: Hi, I'm an engineer at Let's Encrypt. I think you may also have heard from my colleague @cpu. We're finding that a lot of our top clients (21 out of 25, by log …
2018-08-08
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2018-08-16
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Kubernetes Operations (kops) - Production Grade K8s Installation, Upgrades, and Management
2018-08-18
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@Daren @michal.matyjek are you using this? I didn’t know about this.
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I do not believe we do, first time I see this
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Documentation for Helm - The Kubernetes Package Manager.
2018-08-20
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@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) No. Id wait for an official upgrade path., but it will be welcome
2018-08-21
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2018-08-24
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Kind of an edge case scenario, but lead me to finding some (older) issues for nginx-ingress, but other folks might run into this as well.. There is a known race condition in the 0.11 release of nginx-ingress that leads to a race condition that causes the mechanism that retrieves secrets to fail, if and only if, you are creating multiple ingresses w/ TLS enabled.
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this is with kube-lego?
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correct
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btw, rohit contributed cert manager
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but I haven’t tried it out yet
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i haven’t gotten around to moving to cert manager yet either
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From the git issues I was seeing, the main guy that works on nginx-ingress (git user: aledbf) fixed it pretty quickly in later releases, apparently should be stable in >= 0.13
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I think this issue is what led @dave.yu and @jonathan.olson to ultimately switch to ACM
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less fancy and not dynamic
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yeah, i think that for staging (especially unlimited staging env) cert-manager or kube-lego is fine, but for prod, ACM (for now) is the way to go
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yea
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have you set that up?
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in the process of
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Also, learned a bit about this, this morning, very cool. https://cilium.io/ Saw it featured on the TGI Kube thing that Joe Beda/Heptio does
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FWIW: Updated to use nginx-ingress 0.15.0 and all my services are still available and the race condition is fixed
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what Upgrade nginx-ingress to use docker image 0.15.0 why Fix race condition when using TLS and kube-lego references https://sweetops.slack.com/archives/CBW699XE0/p1535138518000100
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thanks!
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@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) We have even stopped using certmanager and nginx ingress controller , we are currently using ACM and kube-aws-ingress-controller
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thanks for the update
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This is a better setup if we are not require to rewrite targets
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I would also recommend to switch to CoreDns
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how was kube-aws-ingress-controller
to setup? is this the same are the original coreos alb ingress?
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(does kube-aws-ingress-controller
use ALBs?)
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yes kube-aws-ingress-controller use ALB
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nice
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did you need to specify the subnets?
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but its very different than coreos alb ingress
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or security groups
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no, it doesn’t work that way
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it takes only region
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(the coreos one didn’t autodiscover a lot - at least when we tried it, and ultimate felt it wasn’t worth it)
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but then discover autodiscover all components
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sweet!
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do you have a helmfile
you can share?
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coreos had only single alb ingress controller, they have another forwarder component as skipper
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i don’t have helmfile but can share my manifest.
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it automatically discover the acm also which we have created as part of root modules
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another cool thing would be to enable aws-iam-authenticator by default
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so you’re not using the zalando helm chart?
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nopes
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how come?
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my policy is, if the setup is not too complicated kubectl apply is preferred
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this a very simple setup
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and if the chart didn’t work in 3 trials , use kubectly lack of time
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(haha, you had me googling kubectly
)
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yea, a bit of time goes to maintaining charts
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interested to see what other engines will be introduced in helm 3
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i am awaiting when helm3 will be launched, specially as of namespace limitation
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i couldn’t use helm to manage our internal service
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hey did you got chance to try with .dockerenv in xx.cloudpose.co modules
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We’re doing something similar for Caltech. Building a kubernetes-in-a-box distro with geodesic as the base image
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And a pretty setup menu.
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We’re writing the env to /localhost/.geodesic/env
and then sourcing it on load.
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It’s similar in design, but not using a .dockerenv
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nice
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also, we’ve got a poc running #geodesic containers in CI/CD
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(codefresh)
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lots of PRs in the past week to polish up the geodesic base image for that
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if I got it right, you are saying you did setup a ci/cd for complete dev.cp.co environment, correct?
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that is very cool, i was trying to samething at some point of time,
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Yes, we got it as far as running init-terraform
and terraform plan
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nothing precluding apply
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but doing that with Codefresh, isn’t unsecure, cause geodesic require nearly adminacess to setup env
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also, going to start adding some testing
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CD of infrastructure requires admin access pretty much
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either that be CodeBuild, Jenkins, or any other system.
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our strategy is multipronged
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use multiple pipelines for different kinds of CI and CD
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and use multiple codefresh accounts, one per stage
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I agree but I will rely on instance profile more than a exposing admin credentials
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Yea, just codebuild is more teadious iMO to work with
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codefresh enterprise supports running agents on prem
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also, the way we’re currently pursuing this is still running aws-vault
inside of codefresh
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to generate short-lived sessions
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that is much better, i would probably continue with codebuild since we are not using aws-vault also
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yea… you’re diverging but that’s cool
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once you are finished, if you decided to openup I will translate to a codebuild pipeline for you
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that would be cool
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anyways since this is very limited build minutes, it would be easily covered under build plane
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by the way do you come across this project https://github.com/GoogleContainerTools/kaniko
kaniko - Build Container Images In Kubernetes
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Haven’t seen it
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Similar tools include:
img
orca-build
umoci
buildah
FTL
Bazel rules_docker
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is this something you’re researching to implement?
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yes, we are using ci agents in kubernetes. Since most of them use dind and rely on host docker
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its insecure as well as we experienced that its not good to have more than 1 agent per machine
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docker build is actually a single threaded command and use some intrinsic locking
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if we are able to use these projects with our agents, we can actually run many agents with our cluster
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yea, good point
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just came across img
the other day
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not something though we’re optimizing for
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honestly, there’s too much to solve
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i’d rather not also have to solve building
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just checking
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have you used probot/hubot?
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nope, never heard actually
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we are mostly on gitlab
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ok
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i like the way the kubernetes/charts PRs work. how authorized users can issue commands via comments.
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want to do that via slack and github
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this is also very cool, github is actually coolest of all. I wish my org wasn’t such a miser to use the free gitlab
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haha, these days it feels like i just hear how awesome gitlab is
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Geodesic “Kiosk” Mode
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Using dialog
we’ve created a simple menu system to spin up kubernetes clusters with the full ML stack they need.
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One-click create/destroy cluster
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Uses helmfile to install all charts
2018-08-28
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what are some interview questions that come up for k8?
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I’m not quite sure - haven’t interviewed
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but I can share the line of questioning I use
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I like to start broad - first ask about the kubernetes architecture. what are all the daemons used to create a kubernetes cluster. the objective here is to see if the candidate is just a user or operator.
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if they don’t know, then they are a user. if they answer correctly (e.g. api server, controller, kubelet, proxy, etc), then I dig down into each one of those to see what level of depth they have.
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if they are just a user, that’s cool too - with kops, you barely need to know the underlying services any more
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then I ask them to rattle off as many resource types as they can. it shows what they’ve used.
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then when to use what kind of resource type and when.
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I like to ask what kinds of problems they’ve encountered in the past and how they solved them.
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I like to ask what kinds of apps they’ve deployed and how they deployed it. if they deployed stateful apps, i’m always curious if the risks are well understood.
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i like to know what integrations they’ve used with kubernetes. for example, if they haven’t used helm, that would be a redflag.
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thank you!
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this helps!
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Interesting….
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<https://github.com/kubernetes/charts>
now redirects to <https://github.com/helm/charts>