#office-hours (2019-07)
“Office Hours” are every Wednesday at 11:30 PST via Zoom. It’s open to everyone. Ask questions related to DevOps & Cloud and get answers! https://cloudposse.com/office-hours
Public “Office Hours” are held every Wednesday at 11:30 PST via Zoom. It’s open to everyone. Ask questions related to DevOps & Cloud and get answers!
https://cpco.io/slack-office-hours
Meeting password: sweetops
2019-07-10
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Public #office-hours starting now! Join me here: https://zoom.us/meeting/register/dd2072a53834b30a7c24e00bf0acd2b8
Have any questions? This is your chance to ask us anything.
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missed it today, had a meeting conflict.
2019-07-17
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an internet-facing NLB in a public subnet with a target group of Aurora Serverless endpoint IP addresses worked. thanks @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)!
2019-07-20
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@Blaise Pabon I finally remembered the OS… it’s called NixOS
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What was the the name of the sandbox style package manager for red hat?
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Oh! I remember nixOS! my old boss Ariya is a huge fan of their package manager Nix
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Yep!
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OK, so the redhat OS package manager is ostree
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for the system image
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Do you know how ostree compares to nix? Or is it apples to oranges
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and the next-gen package manager for applications is called flatpak.
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Sooo… ostree is for the system image
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yes, the ostree
upstream project is a little behind on docs. This guy has lots of good links for Nix resources:
https://wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz/package-managers/nix
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right and NixOS has a similar approach to system images of NixOS.
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rpm-ostree
is for RHEL style os
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actually the genealogy is more like this:
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CoreOS begat ostree
(which is mostly found on RedHat systems)
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NixOS begat nix
(although now nix runs on other OS, including Mac OS!)
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IF you’re booting NixOS, then nix
can manage your system images.
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If you’re booting CoreOS, then ostree
will manage your system images.
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…and since CoreOS has tight collaboration with Fedora and RHEL, the ecosystem of .rpms
is ported over…. whereas there are fewer nixOS binaries and some packages you will have to build from source.
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I suspect that NixOS will become the NetBSD of the devops world: bombproof, stable, late to adopt. and CoreOS/OStree will become the RHEL of the Enterprise world.
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I agree… don’t see NixOS taking off
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Don’t get me wrong, ‘nix is a very kickass solution if you are switiching beteween monolithix development environments (python, Java) where a sdk version can mean a whole different set of dependencies.
2019-07-22
2019-07-24
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@here Public #office-hours with cloud posse starting now! https://zoom.us/s/508587304 join if you have any questions or want to listen in.