#office-hours (2022-09)

“Office Hours” are every Wednesday at 11:30 PST via Zoom. It’s open to everyone. Ask questions related to DevOps & Cloud and get answers! https://cloudposse.com/office-hours

Public “Office Hours” are held every Wednesday at 11:30 PST via Zoom. It’s open to everyone. Ask questions related to DevOps & Cloud and get answers!

https://cpco.io/slack-office-hours

Meeting password: sweetops

2022-09-02

Azar avatar
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2022-09-05

Vlad Ionescu (he/him) avatar
Vlad Ionescu (he/him)

Question for next time: anybody using Spacelift with CloudFormation? If yes, what was your experience?

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Ryan Cartwright avatar
Ryan Cartwright

Hi @Vlad Ionescu (he/him) We have a few customers actively using it. I can see if a recent one will share their experience with you. They recently signed up as they have terraform, SAM, and ansible use cases.

https://docs.spacelift.io/vendors/cloudformation/integrating-with-sam.html

Do you have any questions or feedback? Our Eng team is also available to discuss.

Full disclosure: I lead sales at Spacelift.

Integrating with AWS Serverless Application Model (SAM) - Spacelift Documentation

Collaborative Infrastructure For Modern Software Teams

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Vlad Ionescu (he/him) avatar
Vlad Ionescu (he/him)

@Ryan Cartwright thank you for asking! I don’t have any concrete questions unfortunately — Spacelift with CloudFormation is on my to-try list and I haven’t yet had the time, so I was curious if anybody else tried it.

2022-09-06

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Gabriel

Question: You (Eric) mentioned AWS IC (SSO) and federation as an approach to fine grained, cross-account permission/access management. I did not quite get it

Like with IAM in the past or present, I know of users, groups, roles.

• Users belong to groups,

• Groups have permissions enforcing MFA and granting cross-account access (assume role), and the

• Other accounts have appropriate roles which users can assume based on the group they are in. This also worked nicely on the CLI. You configure .aws/credentials and .aws/config with creds and profiles once and then the CLI daily flow is:

• MFA once within the CLI and without the browser (8h or 12h duration)

• Switching the value of AWS_PROFILE (allowing for different terminal windows having different roles/accounts) How does your flow on the CLI look (also scripting)? What is the approach behind it?

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Gabriel avatar
Gabriel

Thanks for all the interesting tips

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

thanks @Gabriel! hit us up next week if you want some more concrete examples

Gabriel avatar
Gabriel

Thanks will probably do

Gabriel avatar
Gabriel

BTW, I deleted everything, reinstalled/updated and now it is working without browser interaction except initially.

Starting/generating additional sessions happens without additional browser interaction. So I something was messed up with my config.

2022-09-07

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Matt Gowie

Discussion topic for today: Anyone using ArgoCD-Autopilot? We were evaluating it at Masterpoint and I believe our intuition is to go in another direction to bootstrap clusters with Argo, but I would still be interested to hear others experience and if they’d recommend for or against.

https://argocd-autopilot.readthedocs.io/

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managedkaos avatar
managedkaos

Question: has anyone tried zeet.co? Another multi-cloud build tool new kid on the block.

Jim Park avatar
Jim Park

Fun note for MFA. Now I’d think twice to see if this even makes sense to do, but I’ve seen someone use oauthtool in github actions to answer a MFA.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
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SweetOps
12:29:09 AM
Bogdan Mihaescu avatar
Bogdan Mihaescu

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) upload to youtube failed again

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Heads up! we received an erroneous DMCA take down notice and are looking into it.

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2022-09-08

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2022-09-13

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venkata.mutyala
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Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

SMH — They’re so late to the game that it’s actually astounding.

Drift Detection for Terraform Cloud is Now Generally Availableattachment image

Drift Detection for Terraform Cloud continuously checks infrastructure state to detect and notify operators of any changes, minimizing risk, downtime, and costs.

2022-09-14

Gabriel avatar
Gabriel

Question for OH: Anybody upgraded EKS to 1.23? How did it go? Any issues?

Sherif avatar

I been missing recent Office Hours but I listen to the YT Videos. You chatted about managing AWS Config files last week, I been using https://granted.dev and It is very gooood.

Main highlights:

  1. Auto Populated SSO Roles
  2. Open AWS Console in Separate Chrome Profiles
Granted

Granted - the easiest way to access your cloud.

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

Hm — This looks pretty great. I know the Leapp folks are building some similar functionality into their tool.

Has anyone used this with Leapp? Does it play nicely?

Granted

Granted - the easiest way to access your cloud.

Sherif avatar

Unfortunately I did not try leapp

Vlad Ionescu (he/him) avatar
Vlad Ionescu (he/him)

FYI: I won’t make it to the call today Sorry!

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
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Matt Gowie

Hm… I’m getting the following when I hit the meeting link today —

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Matt Gowie

I had to open the Zoom app on my machine and join from there. Tried hard refresh and multiple browsers and yet I was continuing to hit that page.

FYI — @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) @Linda Pham (Cloud Posse)

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

I guess I’m the only one who ran into this since no one else commented on this…

Feel free to ignore me on this one I guess — Maybe some weird hiccup on my end with Zoom?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Thanks for reporting this! We had to extend the meeting occurrences. It’s fixed for next week.

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OliverS avatar
OliverS

question i have if time: secrets are a pain to delete and recreate (say you delete a stack that has AWS secrets, and then recreate it and the secrets have same names), any tricks?

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

Are you referring to SSM Parameter Store secrets or AWS Secrets Manager that you manage manually?

Maybe a better solution would be to use sops to check in your secrets and seed them into AWS via terraform?

Something like what I built and am upstreaming to Cloud Posse here: https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-aws-components/pull/480

what

• Adds a new component: ssm-parameters

why

• We use this component on Masterpoint projects to manage SSM Parameter Store resources in a GitOps-ish fashion. • It enables managing secrets via sops and seeding them into SSM Params – This be useful to reduce manual operations around secrets. • It also supports managing normal SSM Params that are not secrets in the case that is useful for non-secret config.

references

• None

OliverS avatar
OliverS

AWS Secrets Manager

Brian Ji avatar
Brian Ji

if you’re using terraform you can append a random suffix to the secret name using

resource "random_string" "secret_name_suffix" {
  length  = 4
  special = false
}
OliverS avatar
OliverS

Yeah I’m keeping that as last resort because services running in the stack (but not managed by it) need to know the secret path as they can get info stored there.

So this approach would now require that secret path be shipped to the application somehow, eg an SSM parameter that is not random.

There is a resource argument for secrets called force_overwrite_replica_secret but even when set to true, I still get the “resource already exists” error when I re-create the stack. This would be the best solution if it worked since it can be used upon re-creation not deletion.

So I guess I will just have to remember to set the secret destruction time to 0 days before I run tf destroy.

Or I’ll run a script that uses AWS CLI to destroy the secrets after tf destroy has been run, since it is easy to forget to do the apply with 0 day setting.

OliverS avatar
OliverS

I know why that force flag does not work as I expected: it is for multi-region replication. https://github.com/hashicorp/terraform-provider-aws/issues/17943. The tf docs for the resource just don’t make that obvious (although the word “replica” in the flag is hint, in hindsight).

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FairwindsOps/pluto

A cli tool to help discover deprecated apiVersions in Kubernetes

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
doitintl/kube-no-trouble

Easily check your clusters for use of deprecated APIs

Christian avatar
Christian

How do you handle updating EKS clusters? We use terraform. Is it safer to recreate everything inside the cluster in the updated version and use some kind of DNS switching? Or just update the version number in the same cluster in terraform. What do people generally do?

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Thanks for reporting this! We had to extend the meeting occurrences. It’s fixed for next week.

Allan Swanepoel avatar
Allan Swanepoel

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) - I couldnt make the office hours today - but wanted to ask if youhave, ot thought of doing demos on some of your tools, such as https://github.com/cloudposse/geodesic/ and https://github.com/cloudposse/atmos ?

cloudposse/geodesic
cloudposse/atmos
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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@RB or @matt are you free next week to do an geodesic/atmos demo?

cloudposse/geodesic
cloudposse/atmos
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RB avatar

Yes, sure thing

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2022-09-16

Sherif avatar

Yo! wave Where’s this week’s Office Hour recording

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@nian

nian avatar

Thanks for the heads up … uploaded here

Thanks for your patience!

Tyrone Meijn avatar
Tyrone Meijn

Hey @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) and @nian. I don’t think the recording for the 28th of September is posted to YouTube yet.

nian avatar

Thanks for the heads up! It should be visible now.

2022-09-19

SweetOps avatar
SweetOps
06:19:43 PM
nian avatar

Thanks for your patience!

2022-09-21

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
06:00:10 PM

@here office hours is starting in 30 minutes! Remember to post your questions here.

Vinko Vrsalovic avatar
Vinko Vrsalovic
06:22:52 PM

Can I ask architecture questions? I want to deploy a dotnet 6 application that is backed by PostgreSQL. The application exposes a REST API and also has an internally scheduled process that runs batch processing. I’m torn between splitting up the batch processing from the REST API, using Lambda+API Gateway for the API and a simple ECS container for the batch processing. OR, having containers for both things. I’m thinking about provisioned Aurora for PostgreSQL (serverless v2 seems really pricey for now)

I’m also torn between ECS and EKS, I feel that EKS might be overkill for now.

Any other options I’m missing?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

heads up! we answered your question today on the call.

Can I ask architecture questions? I want to deploy a dotnet 6 application that is backed by PostgreSQL. The application exposes a REST API and also has an internally scheduled process that runs batch processing. I’m torn between splitting up the batch processing from the REST API, using Lambda+API Gateway for the API and a simple ECS container for the batch processing. OR, having containers for both things. I’m thinking about provisioned Aurora for PostgreSQL (serverless v2 seems really pricey for now)

I’m also torn between ECS and EKS, I feel that EKS might be overkill for now.

Any other options I’m missing?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Check it out and let us know if that answers it.

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@matt @Vlad Ionescu (he/him) @muhaha @Allan Swanepoel @Ralf Pieper thanks for all your great insights today!

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2022-09-28

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
06:00:27 PM

@here office hours is starting in 30 minutes! Remember to post your questions here.

Allan Swanepoel avatar
Allan Swanepoel

was up for last week - but could we get a demo of geodesic and atmos at some point perhaps?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

We’re going to do this demo after hashiconf. Skipping this week and next week is hashiconf.

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Allan Swanepoel avatar
Allan Swanepoel

i understand theres a lot to cover from the normal news

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Allan Swanepoel

also - aws is having a bad day - https://health.aws.amazon.com/health/status

View the overall status and health of AWS services using the AWS Health Dashboard.

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Allan Swanepoel
Secure Controls Framework (SCF)

Secure Controls Framework (SCF)

2022-09-29

Alex Box avatar
Alex Box

Hi folks, if it interests you I would love to hear some discussion on this question I just posted in #prometheus https://sweetops.slack.com/archives/CE2JD8N1M/p1664446180231159

Hi all, wondering if anyone has a solution they could share for running analytics over historical alerts from alertmanager? For example, “alert X fired 10 times in July and 30 times in August”. This would allow the monitoring team in company Y to investigate the biggest drain for the on-call shift over time. I understand it’s a design decision of AM to not persist any state but in medium/large environments I think it’s an important area that often gets overlooked. Thanks.

Vlad Ionescu (he/him) avatar
Vlad Ionescu (he/him)

DORA 2022 is out

Blog post is up at https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/devops-sre/dora-2022-accelerate-state-of-devops-report-now-out and I attached the PDF cause I find the “let us spam you” form annoying.

DORA 2022 Accelerate State of DevOps Report now out | Google Cloud Blogattachment image

Security-enhancing DevOps practices are broadly adopted, this year’s DORA Accelerate State of DevOps Report found, but that’s not the whole story.

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