#packages (2020-02)
Discuss the package distribution https://github.com/cloudposse/packages
Archive: https://archive.sweetops.com/packages/
2020-02-07
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@Zachary Loeber any reason we don’t use the download_zip
macro?
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Cloud Posse installer and distribution of native apps, binaries and alpine packages - cloudposse/packages
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@Zachary Loeber has joined the channel
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I noticed the latest PRs don’t leverage it
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Honestly… copypaste-itus
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I didn’t realize it was there to use
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I’m getting a better sense of the backend macros now that I did the wrapper utility though
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In fact, I just added a generic template generation based on the selections a person makes when using make helper to pull in github apps. It leverages all of the macros (based on the user selection it uses the proper macro)
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you’re going to town on it!
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selfish reasons but trying to not just be a consumer ya know?
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you use any of the silly whiptail wizards I threw together?
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I haven’t added any new packages lately
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mostly just fixing the auto-PRs for updating packages
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maintainers keep mucking with their package names!
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(and version numbers)
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That’s something I keep thinking about. There should be a better programatic way to capture the right template to use for downloads that capture these things
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fuzzy-logic style
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Oh, there’s a away that will work 100%
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just use the API
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ha, I do scrape that in my helper script
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I had to do that for one of the packages which uses a unique git sha in each one
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but it’s still not 100% for architecture, os, and all that other stuff
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in the release name?
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thats nuts
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If you want to reject the prs for hashicorp apps I’ll get them updated to use the zip macro (if you didn’t already)
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I was on a sales/ideation pitch the first three days of this week and I feels like I gave a three day long technical grilling where I was squeezed for all I was worth
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You ever do any Kafka work btw? I guess its hot stuff right now
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Cloud Posse installer and distribution of native apps, binaries and alpine packages - cloudposse/packages
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lol
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worked on some kafka stuff years ago, but not recenlty
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I’ve been running it in Kubernetes for a bit for a client that asked for it (ask and thou shall receive).
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kafka operator?
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what a pain to get right. I’m seriously looking at NSQ as a recommendation instead.
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the official operator wasn’t released at the time so no, just charts (confluent ones though for the connect component specifically)
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Since I have your ear for a sec…. The EKS module of yours, is that pretty much superceded by the aws provider at this point?
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?
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i don’t follow….
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I may bounce over to Amazon for an engagement. They want managed kube, I’m looking at the terraform for it and there is your module
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oh, so here’s how to understand that
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(even with managed node pools, you still want to use terraform to manage it)
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there the EKS cluster, which is really just the masters
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we have a terraform module for that
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then you’ll want node pools. there are all kinds of different ways to do nodepools
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self-managed with autoscale groups
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managed node pools (supported by provider), called by terraform
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and fargate profiles (like running fargate)
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there are many limitations and tradeoffs with each flavor
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best to ask on #office-hours hours and I can go into details
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I’ll pester you more on the next one if other things don’t take priority for your time
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After using the provider for azure to create aks clusters over the last year
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I’ve seen the provider released half a dozen times over to fix and generally overcome a good deal of my prior workarounds and such
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so now the default provider is pretty fully fleshed out (finally)
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the thing is nothing is ever easy on AWS
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it is very low-level/raw
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I’m going to have to say that is the same for Azure. The moment you need to do anything beyond the basics you almost instantly hit a wall
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or maybe I’m just never happy with the basics and its a matter of perspective….
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your modules are impressive btw, no i’m not hitting on you, I have a wife.
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So short answer, starting net new, would you still use your module over default provider code?
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100%
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it’s always our pattern though
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modules are for business logic
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almost never is a raw resource sufficient.
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That’s sensible to me good sir, thanks a bunch
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https://livebook.manning.com/book/gitops-and-kubernetes <- worth keeping an eye on
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Ah nice! Glad they found someone to write it.
Fun coincidence - they reached out to cloud posse about writing this book. I had to decline because too many other things going on.
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I had someone reach out to me to co-write a book that would ‘compete with Kubernetes in Action’. I outright declined as that book simply is one of the best about the topic atm
2020-02-08
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@Zachary Loeber i am curious - how are you using gonsul
? haven’t heard/seen of this before.
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I’m not yet. But I was planning on putting it to use in some pipeline tasks to bootstrap/update key-pair values for projects with consul. Not a good idea?
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I looked into consul configuration and the idea of manually loading it with values defeats the purpose of config as code to me so I found this thing and figured I’d give it a whirl.
2020-02-09
2020-02-12
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I recorded an intro video of how our packages repo works
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It’s far from complete, but a start
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Vidyard Recording
2020-02-13
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I better watch this one for certain
2020-02-19
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My PRs are piling up. Have I been missing something on these that make them unworthy?
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@Maxim Mironenko (Cloud Posse) :-)
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I had to delegate these, but Maxim has a question for me as he is new to the repo
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I think we are going to review with him tonight
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Let’s do just one, then I will take care of others
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@Maxim Mironenko (Cloud Posse) are you free now?
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yes, let’s do a call
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@Zachary Loeber expect a flood of merge notifications
2020-02-20
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@Zachary Loeber please, take a loot at <https://github.com/cloudposse/packages/pull/329>
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there are some changes required to make this package happens
2020-02-21
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@Zachary Loeber all PRs are merged and here is the release: <https://github.com/cloudposse/packages/releases/tag/0.129.0>
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