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Archive: https://archive.sweetops.com/random/

2024-04-01

2024-04-02

forswearbeetle avatar
forswearbeetle

hey all, am devops engineer focused on AWS, I got my eyes lately on openstack and liked the concept of building a local cloud provider(I read based on some folks on reddit struggled on deploying and maintaining it) but wanted to ask: are there clients or companies still working with openstack or developing technologies around it because I don’t see a lot of active communities on reddit or any big contribution to the github

kevcube avatar
kevcube

I set up openstack for a client team and my findings are that it just is too much overhead and docker-configuration, awslocal configuration, a collection of shell scripts etc

it didn’t make sense for a team of ~10 engineers but still they wanted a full local loop of their lambda flow which involved things like s3 bucket notifications for triggering lambda etc

kevcube avatar
kevcube

I think localstack is good if you built with incorrect patterns and don’t have a good way to locally execute your code. But in an ideal world you should not need localstack and should have a strong local dev flow and from there move to a dev cloud environment.

forswearbeetle avatar
forswearbeetle

So learning it and trying to provide it as service will not be beneficial for the long run ?! my main interest was finding a way to help mid-companies achieve their on-premise plans outside the cloud providers options(AWS outpost..)

kevcube avatar
kevcube

I wouldn’t say that it’s an extremely valuable skill to have. I haven’t seen many organizations that are using it at scale, and with proper configuration of localstack it’s basically the same skillset as AWS. I would focus more on sharpening pure-AWS skills

forswearbeetle avatar
forswearbeetle

Understood, thanks for your feedback

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Yea, I think if the purpose is testing locally, local stack is where things are headed. Much simpler. Open Stack is overkill unless the objective is to create a self-managed cloud on bare metal.

kevcube avatar
kevcube

ohh @forswearbeetle i’m sorry I completely swapped openstack and localstack in my head when I read your first message

kevcube avatar
kevcube

And what I meant to say is that I set up localstack. I do not have experience setting up openstack

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Incidentally, a new startup out of ycombinator is trying to provide a new alternative to open stack (with a hosted version as well) https://www.ubicloud.com/

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Ubicloud is an open and portable cloud. Think of it as an open alternative to cloud providers, like what Linux is to proprietary operating systems. Ubicloud provides IaaS cloud features on bare metal providers, such as Hetzner, OVH, and AWS Bare Metal. You can set it up yourself or use our managed platform.

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
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Open source alternative to AWS. Founded in 2023 by Umur Cubukcu, Ozgun Erdogan, and Daniel Farina, Ubicloud has 10 employees based in San Francisco, CA, USA.

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

I have set up Openstack in a test environment around 2013, it is a good project to learn but not for making a living or commercial project, many big companies had failed on it

forswearbeetle avatar
forswearbeetle

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) I think cloudstack is a true alternative to openstack for now

forswearbeetle avatar
forswearbeetle

@Hao Wang what do you see as an alternative and open source to learn ?

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

also used opennebula

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Heh, didn’t think cloudstack still existed. I only did a small PoC 12+ years ago when was at CBS.

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Interesting. So I used it in 2011, just before it was acquired. Didn’t realize Citrix donated to Apache Foundation.

forswearbeetle avatar
forswearbeetle

not that much of articles and blogs around it but the documentation seems decent, easier than openstack tbh

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Yes, when I tried cloudstack it was pretty easy to get up and running.

Jeremy White (Cloud Posse) avatar
Jeremy White (Cloud Posse)

I did a lot of openstack back in the day. We would use cobbler and pxe to bring up dozens of compute for clients and some wanted their own clusters. In the end, the tech is mostly about learning rabbitmq… I feel like that’s the only long term skill I got out of it. And learning how beam/rabbit work and learning some erlang/elixir would need to be on your skill todo’s first.

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Jeremy White (Cloud Posse) avatar
Jeremy White (Cloud Posse)

Customers leaned on it as an alternative to ec2, and we would basically find value in it because customers were buying hardware and we would make sure it sliced its hardware neatly into clusters.

Jeremy White (Cloud Posse) avatar
Jeremy White (Cloud Posse)

That’s still something that can be tough to do with kubernetes and other tech, but to be clear, it’s going to move you closer to hardware

Jeremy White (Cloud Posse) avatar
Jeremy White (Cloud Posse)

Getting closer to hardware is literally the opposite of getting closer to cloud. Not that they can’t work together, but I would not consider them overlapping or even reinforcing cross-cuts of the same problem

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

tinkerbell is another interesting project

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

based on containers

2024-04-03

2024-04-04

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang
02:14:52 PM
Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

forwarded this video from #security, from now on, for all the open-source projects, it is expected that the team of maintainer or co-maintainer will be audited internally and externally in all the open-source projects, which is a good thing

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

you never know who is behind them

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

hope he can come back to DevOps community or his own company as Jobs did

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Riley Goodside (@goodside) on Xattachment image

AI-generated sad girl with piano performs the text of the MIT License

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Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

MIT license is sad

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AI-generated sad girl with piano performs the text of the MIT License

managedkaos avatar
managedkaos

I would listen to this on repeat!

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

IMO, MIT is pretty happy as far as licenses go. It would be hilarious to do this based on a source-available license that Redis, HashiCorp, ElasticSearch, etc have adopted

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

optimistic to see the doors are closing to those products

2024-04-05

2024-04-06

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang
eBPF & Tetragon: Tools for detecting XZ Utils CVE 2024-3094 Exploit - Isovalentattachment image

Detecting XZ Utils liblzma CVE 2024-3094 backdoor exploit with Tetragon and eBPF. Includes ready to apply yaml policy.

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang
google/zx

A tool for writing better scripts

2024-04-09

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

In retrospect, this makes sense, but it’s not the image I had in my head of what the eclipse would look like from space. https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1777493587925647795

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View of the eclipse from orbit

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

amazing nature

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View of the eclipse from orbit

managedkaos avatar
managedkaos

that view almost makes the earth look like an eyeball

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Right? It’s almost creepy looking

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang
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U.S. Cyber Safety Review Board slams Microsoft for security failures that enabled a major data breach by China-backed hackers.

2024-04-10

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

You know how I save my time, one of them is not to pay the same attention to the open-source products with commercial license. You need to distract yourself to other opensource projects, even though they are still small, for example, when mysql was acquired by SUN, Postgresql is much less popular. Keep calm and start staying away from the projects, for example, Terraform, Redis… but you can still make a living with them, it is not a conflict but a way to spend your time and energy more efficiently

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

(I forgot that sun acquired mysql, before oracle acquired sun)

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

I worked for SUN then so got some impressions still, SUN failed its new CPU and then fell hard

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang
Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

chatgpt 3.5 is used

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

gemini free is used

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Looks like 4 is getting some degree of updates

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2024-04-11

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maarten avatar
maarten
Yevgeniy Brikman (@brikis98) on X

1/5 OpenTofu recently got a cease & desist letter from HashiCorp claiming copyright infringement. At the same time, an online publication made the same accusation.

These claims have zero basis in fact. And because the code is open source, you can see this for yourself!

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venkata.mutyala avatar
venkata.mutyala

wave Hi folks, we are tuning our product offering of a DevOps tool (glueops.dev). If any platform/sre/devops engineers would be willing to talk to me, I would really appreciate it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHtY2jOV1M0

2024-04-12

george.m.sedky avatar
george.m.sedky

Hey everyone wave I’m George the founder of Stakpak, we’re a VC backed startup working on a specialized copilot for Terraform that attributes recommendations back to real people’s work.

I’d love to learn more about your workflows, and get your feedback, please DM me if you’re interested in helping us out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNA1wC02pa8

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Pawel Rein avatar
Pawel Rein

Looks interesting. I think for many of us, there’s too many new cool tools like yours we would like to try out, but not enough time. Some examples / tutorials / videos allowing me to learn at least some cool bits of the tool in minutes rather than hours would be cool

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)


there’s too many new cool tools like yours we would like to try out,
isn’t that the truth!

Pawel Rein avatar
Pawel Rein

especially every time after office hours

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george.m.sedky avatar
george.m.sedky

YES @Pawel Rein I’m working on that

I tried demoing some cool bits in this 2 min video, If you think it’s interesting enough you can give it a try here https://histudio.ai

Really appreciate the candid feedback !

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A Hybrid Intelligence (Human + AI = wave HI) that helps you create production-ready infrastructure, using knowledge contributed by you and other DevOps experts all over the world. A Hive Mind for DevOps and cloud-native infrastructure design.

2024-04-15

Stephan Helas avatar
Stephan Helas

Hi,

is there a yaml scheme for validation in vim using yaml-language-server as LSP? https://github.com/redhat-developer/yaml-language-server

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

Re: Charmbracelet – I briefly checked out their website after we were talking about “What do they do to make money” during the last office-hours and I’m still pretty confused how they’re a business? I assume they make CLI apps for companies? I’m unsure who that would be and how that would be profitable, but I really hope they’re doing well because now looking at their breadth of OSS work – they’re super impressive. I’m going go donate to the GH

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We make the command line glamorous

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Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

They don’t do GH donations (or any it seems) – Crazy.

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We make the command line glamorous

James Humphries avatar
James Humphries

They have charm cloud: https://charm.sh/cloud/

but mostly i think they make money through paid support

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We make the command line glamorous

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Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

That’s awesome. Again… how does that get enough traction to be profitable is my question, but I love it.

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Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

Maybe atmos v3 needs to be built on Charm

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

I want to do a lot more. Just we need more sponsorships!!

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managedkaos avatar
managedkaos
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Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

now I got used to Azure after a year

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Chris Wahl avatar
Chris Wahl

Honestly I don’t hate the concept of resource groups.

managedkaos avatar
managedkaos

Yes! I started with AWS and then started working with Azure. I really appreciate the way ALL the resources for a project are encapsulated in a resource group. In AWS you can tag but it still leads to resources getting overlooked or left behind when projects get decommed or renamed. Especially back in the click-ops days.

2024-04-16

Xu Pengfei avatar
Xu Pengfei

https://medium.com/@xpf6677/kcl-newsletter-node-js-sdk-template-module-and-crossplane-kcl-function-updates-b0272d9ded0e The KCL programming language latest newsletter is out! (Node.js SDK, Template Module and Crossplane KCL Function Updates). Welcome to read and provide feedback!

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2024-04-17

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

This looks like a pretty interesting new terminal – Anyone tried it out? https://www.waveterm.dev/

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An open-source, AI-native, terminal built for seamless workflows

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bradym avatar

Interesting idea, but I don’t want AI anywhere near my terminal. Just feels like a security nightmare waiting to happen.

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An open-source, AI-native, terminal built for seamless workflows

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bradym avatar

I also skip over everything related to AI on hacker news and reddit, so I’m clearly not the target audience.

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Dan Miller (Cloud Posse) avatar
Dan Miller (Cloud Posse)

this actually looks pretty cool to me, since I’m already a heavy vim user and havent ever really been able to transition over to VSCode. Plus rendering markdown and images is nice to have. Downloaded and giving it a chance!

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

Let me know how it goes! I’m hesitant to switch to something too quickly as I just got on Warp last year and like it, so I’d like to hear first-hand experience.

Michael avatar
Michael

@Matt Gowie do you have any favorite Warp features you use? I just made the transition to it

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

Honestly I’m coming from iTerm2 and my feeling towards Warp is that the Emacs key combinations that got ingrained in me from 2011 just work better. Things like alt+shift+b for back selecting a word and what not. I think my bar was kinda low. They have better history search and tab completion too.

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

But I’m definitely not a power user of it. I haven’t really used their AI stuff at all.

Michael avatar
Michael

Agreed, I haven’t used any of the team or AI features, but the tab completion and search is very nice!

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Dan Miller (Cloud Posse) avatar
Dan Miller (Cloud Posse)

I tried out wave for a day, but honestly didnt love it. We heavily use docker shells at Cloud Posse, and wave makes it pretty awkward to handle. Kind of a hard stop for me

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

Huh – good to know. What’s it doing in your screenshot? Separating the execution from history or something?

Dan Miller (Cloud Posse) avatar
Dan Miller (Cloud Posse)

yeah it creates a separate session for the docker shell, but continues new commands in the original shell below. You can click and enter the docker shell if you want, but it’s a lot of clutter

Matt Gowie avatar
Matt Gowie

Weird. Probably should be an issue for them cause that sounds like a bug. They must know about it though cause entering a subshell is a normal thing…

Michael avatar
Michael

Holy cow, Warp collects more telemetry than the NSA. I tried it out this week and opted out of all optional telemetry, but after blacklisting the domain so it wouldn’t call back to app.warp.dev, I realized how much it’s sending outbound. https://docs.warp.dev/getting-started/privacy#exhaustive-telemetry-table

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An overview of Warp’s approach to privacy.

2024-04-18

2024-04-21

2024-04-23

admc avatar

We’re using devops notebooks to try to make it easier to share troubleshoot terminal outputs as part of our OSS project Runme. Anyone have feedback? https://dev.to/sourishkrout/runme-gist-a-pastebin-for-terminals-inside-your-docs-5h07

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

I have often said that documentation should be executable

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

You’re making this a reality

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admc avatar

Thanks for the feedback, would love to know what else you want from the project to really make it accomplish those goals in real life use-cases!

venkata.mutyala avatar
venkata.mutyala
12:08:17 AM

wave We are looking to chat with DevOps folks about a new OSS DevOps tool and offering $100 for your time. If you are interested please check out: https://forms.gle/eFpZYmM1MFCQvV2Z8

Pawel Rein avatar
Pawel Rein

can you provide a brief info on the product? post a link to demo here as well

wave We are looking to chat with DevOps folks about a new OSS DevOps tool and offering $100 for your time. If you are interested please check out: https://forms.gle/eFpZYmM1MFCQvV2Z8

venkata.mutyala avatar
venkata.mutyala

Definitely. https://www.glueops.dev/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHtY2jOV1M0

GlueOps is a PaaS that makes it easy for you to deploy apps by combining the best open-source tools into one platform, similar to Heroku/App Runner/AppEngine/Vercel/Netlify. You don’t have to worry about the technical details or maintenance of the OSS tools.

While we use advanced technologies like Kubernetes, you won’t have to use any complex commands. Instead, you just interact with a simple git repository to manage your setup, and we take care of the rest.

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Soren Jensen avatar
Soren Jensen

Looks cool. Is it K8 only, or can you also make the ephemeral environments for e.g. AWS Lambda API’s?

venkata.mutyala avatar
venkata.mutyala

Thanks for the feedback and questions. Much appreciated. We have the ability to support serverless type apps but don’t have any customers running those today. As for how we do it, we just use https://github.com/kedacore/keda as our event based scaler. For our current customers that were using serverless/functions they were using it like a cronjob and we just migrated them to a “job” within the context of kubernetes.

kedacore/keda

KEDA is a Kubernetes-based Event Driven Autoscaling component. It provides event driven scale for any container running in Kubernetes

2024-04-24

2024-04-25

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Any one use https://meetwaves.com/? or similar

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James Humphries avatar
James Humphries

If you do find something that works well I would love to hear about it!

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

I have seen a few over the years. The problem is they always end up shutting down. We manage our own, but I would rather not. But I am scared to switch only for the service to shutdown.

kevcube avatar
kevcube

Telegram is free forever! And now has group chats with channels. None of the stupid tenant-scoped users crap and cross-server channels, just DM people wherever

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

HashiCorp shares rise after one of top software IPOs of 2021 values company at over $14 billion

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang
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Almost all of the company’s revenue comes from subscriptions, but just 7% comes from cloud-based services, although that’s the fast-growing part of the company.

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

which means Hashicorp is eager to sell itself, otherwise…

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

with any means it can use including license change, which is the last one but quick to please investors

Joe Perez avatar
Joe Perez

As a fool that bought at the IPO, I can tell you that I’m still in the hole. Even after the acquisition announcement

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

Lol the acquisition is when the funniest thing begins

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

after pandemic, money is not easy to get, big financial institutes are in hard time, and pass the toughness down to the listed companies

2024-04-26

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

“OpenBao was created by… IBM engineers”

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Yea, so this is the part that’s a lingering mystery for me.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

There’s a theory that the BUSL change was a requirement for the acquisition to proceed, so that IBM wouldn’t need to tarnish it’s reputation by making the license change

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

And if that’s true, what’s the point of this fork? And the fact it’s in the LF, means it’s got some legs.

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

back then (4 months ago), the intense is not disclosed to IBM employees yet, and the IBM employee did the hard fork along with Linux Foundation

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

and now community got concerned about the OpenBao to be poisoned pill since the IBM employees got interest conflict

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

oh shit! I didn’t think about that angle - that it could be a poison pill. Any posts on that?

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

saw some discussions, the pill may not be by purpose but just the timeline does show the acquisition is not planned well even with strong investor supports

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Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

forking a rug-pull repo is saving your next generation, to give them a job opportunity not being controlled by someone behind the scene

Hao Wang avatar
Hao Wang

imaging me working in a state-owned company for the whole life, instead of talking to you guys here (my Mom said many time her life is wasted)

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Mitchell Hashimoto (@mitchellh) on X

Cloud pricing applied to literally anything else, i.e. the coffee shop: coffee is $5, but if you stay it’s free and we charge $0.06/minute unless you’re using internet then it’s $0.09/minute. First timers get 30 minutes free. Talking to others in the cafe is free. Voice calls…

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2024-04-28

Sudhish KR avatar
Sudhish KR

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2024-04-29

venkata.mutyala avatar
venkata.mutyala
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)


However, the system is currently experiencing maintenance limitations due to faulty quick disconnects causing water spray. Given the expense and downtime associated with rectifying this issue in the last six months of operation, it’s deemed more detrimental than the anticipated failure rate of compute nodes. Approximately 1% of nodes experienced failure during this period, primarily attributed to DIMMs with ECC errors, which will remain unrepaired. Additionally, the system will undergo coolant drainage.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

At least they’re honest. Sounds like a money pit!

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