#release-engineering (2020-04)

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2020-04-27

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2020-04-23

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

I am trying to re-do one of my test environment to allow testing SMS and email. Rather than sending real SMS and email, any best practices for how to set this up. Should we mock them or are there 3rd party services we can use for this?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@awatson is this something you have worked with?

awatson avatar
awatson
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awatson avatar
awatson

I generally mock them for testing, for Twilio which we use there is also an option to use an API token earmarked for development for billing purposes.

awatson avatar
awatson

We also keep dev/qa/staging/training accounts and have special phone numbers isolated to those environments

awatson avatar
awatson

I’d also be interested if you come across third party services .

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

@awatson Yes we are on Twilio as well. In general, we just have a prod and a non-prod acct. We don’t further differentiate like you have done. Any special advantage for doing that?

awatson avatar
awatson

Mostly for end users, we do a lot with Flex and between QA, Training, and all the other teams it makes life easier.

awatson avatar
awatson

Often staging different plugins for the UI, or various systems, or things like tearing a back office system down each night on a training space for call centers etc.

awatson avatar
awatson

ICT/FAT/UAT… we have a lot of hoops to jump through.

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

Ok that makes sense. Thank you for your input

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2020-04-21

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

am i right that Jenkins cannot interpolate variables defined in the same environment block?

like:

environment {
  A = "A"
  B = "${A}-B"
}

EDIT: ‘${env.GIT_COMMIT}” passes but returns nulls… EDIT 2: it needs agent any in the pipeline

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Pierre Humberdroz avatar
Pierre Humberdroz

does someone have a semver check regex handy that works in bash.?

Pierre Humberdroz avatar
Pierre Humberdroz

Gitlab actually has the ability to filter on more complex regex

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

SOMESTRING=”v0.2.1” regex=’([0-9]+.[0-9]+.[0-9]+)-?(.*)?’ if [[ $SOMESTRING =~ $regex ]]; then echo “$SOMESTRING matches semver!”; fi

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

probably not the best regex that misses all kinds of edge cases but it will generically do the needful

Pierre Humberdroz avatar
Pierre Humberdroz

thanks!

Alex Siegman avatar
Alex Siegman
fsaintjacques/semver-tool

semver bash implementation. Contribute to fsaintjacques/semver-tool development by creating an account on GitHub.

Alex Siegman avatar
Alex Siegman

or, just the regex from it:

^[vV]?(0|[1-9][0-9]*)\.(0|[1-9][0-9]*)\.(0|[1-9][0-9]*)(\-(0|[1-9][0-9]*|[0-9]*[A-Za-z-][0-9A-Za-z-]*)(\.(0|[1-9][0-9]*|[0-9]*[A-Za-z-][0-9A-Za-z-]*))*)?(\+[0-9A-Za-z-]+(\.[0-9A-Za-z-]+)*)?$
Pierre Humberdroz avatar
Pierre Humberdroz

that regex sadly did not work in bash

Pierre Humberdroz avatar
Pierre Humberdroz

zsh: failed to compile regex: repetition-operator operand invalid

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

I used to have a problem. I used a regular expression to solve it, now I have 2 problems.

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jafow avatar
jafow

this isn’t exactly what’s being asked for, but it’s a semver tool in bash. we use and like it a lot, it’s great: https://github.com/pnikosis/semtag

pnikosis/semtag

A sematic tag script for Git. Contribute to pnikosis/semtag development by creating an account on GitHub.

jafow avatar
jafow

ditto on lifting the regex out of it

2020-04-15

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

https://plugins.jenkins.io/aws-secrets-manager-credentials-provider/ Am i right that this plugin basically allows any project to use any credential, with no possibility of scoping credentials to projects?

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I was joking that, like with Java, no one ever got fired for choosing Jenkins, but now I feel like I should (1) hand my resignation and (2) wear a cardboard box on my head for the rest of my life.

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)


no one ever got fired for choosing Jenkins
was thinking this the other day when you brought up the topic with your requirements.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@Jeremy Grodberg (Cloud Posse) relates to our current project

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@Jeremy Grodberg (Cloud Posse) which plugin did we settle on?

Jeremy Grodberg (Cloud Posse) avatar
Jeremy Grodberg (Cloud Posse)

We are planning to use configuration-as-code-secret-ssm but have not implemented it, as that also requires creating an AWS IAM role for Jenkins, and we don’t have a use case yet. most likely, thought, it is going to have the same behavior,

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I’ve got a crazy idea of adding a mutating admission webhook handler to k8s that matches the part of the pod metadata Jenkinsfiles are not capable of specifying (candidates: metadata.annotations.{buildUrl,runUrl}, metadata.labels.jenkins/label, maybe even metadata.name and injects secrets based on the project name found there.

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Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

Heavy guns.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

Also a fine way to make sure no one can replace you at your job

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Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

i just found that there’s nothing stopping anyone from specifying:

      volumeMounts:
        - name: etc
          mountPath: /hostetc/
  volumes:
    - name: etc
      hostPath:
        path: /etc/

in the Jenkinsfile.

If it was only possible to vary the default pod security policy per namespace… not sure how.

sadly, https://plugins.jenkins.io/script-security/ didn’t work for me when i tried it

2020-04-14

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

Are there any advisories about security when running Jenkins jobs on Kubernetes defined with a jenkinsfile? There’s nothing stopping me from defining serviceAccountName: jenkins in my Jenkinsfile, and accessing all secrets Jenkins has been given access to.

It seems that the only way would be to make Jenkins run its slaves in a separate namespace.

I don’t really see much use in the ability to specify a pod template, other than specifying different containers and resource requests/limits but there doesn’t seem to be a way to restrict that.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I tried going even further and testing the security of my RBAC setup by specifying namespace: kube-system . I could see Jenkins failing to create a pod in the system namespace but for some reason Jenkins committed a suicide afterwards.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

The Helm chart i’m using allows specifying the namespace for Jenkins quite trivially. I I tested the restriction and confirmed it to be working.

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

Hi there! I am trying to write scripts to reset database states so that some tests can be done. Are there any good tools for managing that?

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

Also trying to figure out if there are good tools for anonymizing data from prod. Thank you.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Possibly liquibase or Flyway. I’ve only used Flyway before via Maven though. Its more involved than running a simple script though. The clean command would ‘reset’ things

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

@Zachary Loeber Thanks a lot. Will look into those recommendations. We live in the python world mostly.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Let us know how things turn out. I’m mostly interested in the db realm from a distance. Maybe I can learn a thing or two from your efforts

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

For sure. happy to share after we implement something

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Recently I’d seen a framework for this. I can’t find the one though.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

It was like this: https://github.com/DivanteLtd/anonymizer (but I don’t think this is the one)

DivanteLtd/anonymizer

Universal tool to anonymize database. GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) data protection act supporting tool. - DivanteLtd/anonymizer

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

i am going to try all these

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

and let you know.

chonan tsai avatar
chonan tsai

thanks

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Data anonymizing is highly dependent upon your schema and so I’m thinking you are going to be doing manual scripting. Knowing nothing about your database there are a few tools out there worth taking a peek at, https://github.com/davedash/mysql-anonymous or http://sunitparekh.github.io/data-anonymization/ are a few

davedash/mysql-anonymous

A support group for people who have PII in their mysql databases. - davedash/mysql-anonymous

2020-04-13

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

Am i right that there is zero support for Blue Ocean in Jenkins configuration-as-code?

roth.andy avatar
roth.andy

Not sure what you mean

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

It seems that Blue Ocean will force every user to insert their own GitHub API key when creating repositories. Later I can find this API key in my user’s credentials.

I’d rather configure that with the configuration-as-code module but it doesn’t seem possible.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Looks like this kind of prompt will only be required the first time a pipeline is created in Blue Ocean for a specific Git server because it wants to be able to write Jenkinsfiles to the repo

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

at one point I put together a jenkins job builder driven workflow for automatically precreating several jobs for a Jenkins deployment into containers that were using blue ocean and the resulting deployment did not require additional prompting

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I’ll create a different user and check if I’m asked to supply the key again.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

or better, create a global credential similar to the one created by Blue Ocean, which I will delete, and check if i’m asked to supply it at all

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

not sure if this uses blue ocean or not but it looks interesting nonetheless - https://github.com/odavid/my-bloody-jenkins

odavid/my-bloody-jenkins

Self Configured Jenkins Docker image based on Jenkins-LTS - odavid/my-bloody-jenkins

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

i agree with the name

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Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Ironic how hard it is to automate automation systems isn’t it?

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Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

IMO it’s hard to automate Jenkins, not automation systems in general.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Plus its older than dirt

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

jx is Jenkins modernized for cloud native development in a highly opinionated manner. Unfortunately if you don’t do trunk based development internally it can be a hard sell.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

(some of the things jx does is pretty darn cool though…)

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I think you can still have an unopinionated tool that’s cleaner than jenkins, as long as it avoids dependency hell by having one opinion: containers.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

ok, so the “robocop” bot just scolded me for using bad words… i said “dependency h e l l”

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

yeah, h-e-double-hockey-sticks got me slapped a few times now

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

it makes me chuckle every time

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Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I’m in the middle of a rather unpleasant task of choosing a company-wide CI, rather than letting each team roam free. The requirements are: manually-triggered jobs and pipelines from the UI, webhook pipelines, automatically detected and invoked pipelines from a repository, restarting individual jobs, UI for inputting variables, GitHub repo integration and SSO, configuration as (non-arcane) code, Docker-based, kubernetes-native workers, parallelism, possibly Secrets Manager integration.

I’m preferring self-hosted or stuff we already pay for.

So far I’ve rejected:

• Travis - can’t believe we’re paying for it

• Drone, got better since the last time but still no manual builds

• GitHub Actions (not self-hosted by we effectively already pay for it) - multiple features missing, including UI for manual triggering

• Concourse - workers basically pretend Kubernetes pods are machines

• GitLab - i used it internally in a team but it is ridiculously expensive when used as a CI. Would be 5 times cheaper if used as a Git hosting platform AND a CI at once but i doubt the business will want to migrate all repos. Not yet rejected:

• Jenkins - requires a bazillion of plugins to do the right thing, and configuring them with configuration as code is truly arcane. Basically does the wrong thing by default, and making it work the way we want it in 2020 is laborious. It’s also depressingly ugly, and to fix it more plugins are needed, installing which defeats the point of having Docker containers, unless someone builds their own (sound idea). I’m guessing pipeline DAG view also requires a plugin. Java stack traces. Devs have bad memories. Fortunately its stable Helm chart gets the Kubernetes part right, I am appalled however the declarative Jenkinsfiles need to for some reason know they use kubernetes… They should only know about Docker…

• GoCD - sadly, basically Jenkins made 10 years later. Kilometre-long tracebacks on startup but it serves. Requires non-official plugins to register with GitHub… The plugins don’t seem well-maintained. Seems to need less adjusting than Jenkins. Would pick it over Jenkins, just the plugins… Not yet tried:

• ArgoCD - but it seems like it won’t have UI for manual triggering

• Tekton

• SourceHut

• CodeBuild (not self-hosted but we’re on AWS anyway) Not yet looked at:

• Jenkins-X - who knows

• Bazel

• Buildbot What else should I consider?

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Tekton/Jenkins-x are kubernetes only. Does that eliminate them from the mix?

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

And your list of requirements are basically everything, you want all the things.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

So pipeline as code as a requirement is easy to meet but then you also ask for manual input of variables and manual releasing of your CD process.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

You can sort of get most of your requirements from Azure DevOps (I’m a bit surprised to be saying right now) but that manual release process would just mean a separate pipeline as code you’d set to run without a trigger (so manually kicked off)

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

and you could update variables in the pipeline at that point I believe

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

I just got off a project wherein I created a ton of pipeline as code for the platform so its on my brain atm….

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

ArgoCD is all kube cluster driven btw. There are manual deployments but, as the name states, it is meant for CD, not really for CI

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Tekton can be whatever you like and there is a nifty UI that is available for it but I wouldn’t call the pipeline as code an easy thing to consume for it. That’s what jenkins-x wraps around and attempts to orchestrate

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Bazel is a build tool you would use in a pipeline so that doesn’t really equate

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

I question the need to manually kick off builds. It makes me think that you aren’t using version control correctly or that you are lacking an artifact store

Jawwad Yunus avatar
Jawwad Yunus

look into Buddy (buddy.works)

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

Yes, i’m looking for something that can utilise Kubernetes autoscaling I already have.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

There are multiple users - dev, devops, and techops (let’s call them like that) and while for some the git-driven workflow is acceptable, for others it won’t be, and even getting them to move to Jenkisfiles would be quite a leap.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

GitLab basically checked most of these points (apart from having a decent UI for custom job parameters) the external repo CI use case is priced prohibitively, IMO to force people to migrate repos there. It was acceptable for one of the core teams with relatively few members.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Are you certain you don’t need manually triggered deployments only though?

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

In either case, buddy seems like an interesting one to look into. Not certain about ability to self host with it though

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

It’s complicated - in one team there’s one testing deployment per branch (GitLab manual step triggering a pipeline in the deployment repo), in another - it’s not limited (Jenkins form invoking a ton of scripts + ansible orchestrating an EC2).

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

There’s definitely a number of periodic jobs there.

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

Sounds like a party

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

We’ve got 10 years of free for all with no devops person behind.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I’ll take a look at the solutions suggested. Thanks.

Joe Hosteny avatar
Joe Hosteny

Do you have to run on k8s? What about ECS / fargate, or combination (e.g. workers are plain EC2 instances in an AWS autoscale group)?

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I’d rather minimise the amount of environments if possible.

I’d rather swallow the clunkiness of Jenkins than introduce ECS when I already have EKS figured out. As long as the CI i use is docker-based, i’ve got everything figured when it comes to deployments there.

Joe Presley avatar
Joe Presley

If you go with Jenkins, you should look at the Blue Ocean suite of plugins. Blue Ocean is basically a prettier interface for pipelines that sits on top of Jenkins. If you’re willing to split your CI and your CD, you may also want to look at harness.io. It’s not self-hosted but it’s easy for your development teams to create pipelines and view deployments.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I definitely want at least Material UI so to save developers some trauma Blue Ocean is actually broken on our current installation of Jenkins. Want to try it there. I’m now suffering through configuring it with code, which is not a pleasant experience (still trying to do it right).

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

(we’re experimenting now with jenkins-operator, too early to give a but so far so good)

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I’m trying to use the helm chart and it kind of works. Sadly I started using helm and now it’s too late.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
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sheldonh avatar
sheldonh

Big fan of azure devops yaml pipelines. Super easy to get going, use powershell or bash or python… Use docker commands with support for nested virtualization :-)

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls


greenballs
I thought blue was chosen as the colour of success because of a large amount of people with red-green colour-blindness.

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

But overall i appreciate the article and the list of plugins.

Ayman avatar
Ayman

@Karoline Pauls curious what you ended up going with and if others were added to the mix like CircleCI, CloudBees, etc?

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Ayman avatar
Ayman

I learned a lot from this thread, so thank you all for sharing!

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

Jenkins :<

I also tried Drone but it’s no longer truly OSS. the woodpecker fork of it was not finished on the kubernetes front

Zachary Loeber avatar
Zachary Loeber

@Karoline Pauls, Thanks for sharing that fact so I didn’t have to figure that out myself. I had mentally put drone on my list of pipelines to checkout. Did you ever make any progress with Tekton by chance?

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

I played with it but it seems to be more of a CI/CD framework than a CI/CD system

Karoline Pauls avatar
Karoline Pauls

https://github.com/laszlocph/woodpecker

This project needs love however, it’s a fork of Drone 0.8

laszlocph/woodpecker

An opinionated fork of the Drone CI system. Contribute to laszlocph/woodpecker development by creating an account on GitHub.

2020-04-09

Pierre Humberdroz avatar
Pierre Humberdroz

does someone here have a tool for a timeline ?

Currently we are using slack and a gitlab snippet as a log of when we updated certain components but I think it would be nice to have a tool that allows you to say we have updated this and just go back in time?

Also it should maybe be able to aggregate other sources like alert manager and bugsnag.

Pierre Humberdroz avatar
Pierre Humberdroz

something like this

2020-04-08

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Deploys at Slack attachment image

Deploys require a careful balance of speed and reliability.

2020-04-04

PePe avatar

noooooooooooo the thread about atlantis is gone!!!!!!!!

PePe avatar

the first thread…. wasn’t there an archive ?

PePe avatar

I found it….

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Maybe share it here for context

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PePe avatar

I found this one :

PePe avatar

which is not mine but basically explains the same things I asked a while ago

2020-04-02

2020-04-01

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