#aws (2020-01)

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2020-01-02

rohit avatar

Does anyone know how to make an internal ALB with private hosted zone use DNS cert validation ?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

also, for clarification, you want a public certificate for a private zone?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

(because I think private certificates address this - https://docs.aws.amazon.com/acm/latest/userguide/gs-acm-request-private.html)

Request an ACM PCA private certificate.

loren avatar

cheaper to buy a domain with route53 and use public certs with a public zone than ACM Private CA

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Definitely cheaper

rohit avatar

we are using route53 private hosted zone, create a cname and attach internal alb endpoint to it

loren avatar
loren
12:24:26 AM

can do the same with a public zone instead. very easy. to answer the question, i think DNS cert validation will require a public zone, since the service needs to be able to perform a DNS lookup to validate the records ¯_(ツ)_/¯

rohit avatar

that’s what i thought, was checking if it was possible to do public DNS with my current setup

loren avatar

the service does not have network access to your private zone to perform the DNS validation, i don’t think. not sure how that would work, would be some black magic involved…

rohit avatar

does the public DNS need to resolve to something ?

loren avatar

ACM will provide you with the DNS records that you need to enter. you are proving that you own the zone associated with the ACM cert request. so the zone (or zones, can be plural) needs to match all the cert names you provide to ACM

loren avatar

if you can’t get there, then the ACM PCA feature that @Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) linked ought to work. it’s just expensive to run an ACM PCA ($400/month for the PCA, plus a charge per issued cert)

rohit avatar

@loren thanks. I will check it out

Eamon Keane avatar
Eamon Keane

When using nginx-ingress (installed via helmfile provider), is there a good way to get the load balancer CNAME into terraform for use with populating dns (e.g. [a92da7dd42d9c11ea9d19028a775bee0-865849920.us-east-2.elb.amazonaws.com](http://a92da7dd42d9c11ea9d19028a775bee0-865849920.us-east-2.elb.amazonaws.com))

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Do not use terraform for that. Instead use the external-dns controller.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

This is where the power of Kubernetes controllers really shines

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

E.g. use the cert-manager controller to automatically generate certificates

Eamon Keane avatar
Eamon Keane

oh yea good point, I was getting confused (I do use external-dns and cert-manager). What I actually was driving at was gcp lets you assign a static ip to a load-balancer which can be passed in as a variable to helmfile and remain constant if for some reason the cluster had to be recreated (useful if passing this ip to a third party domain you don’t control). On AWS, I don’t think there’s an ability to control the CNAME so it will change between cluster creations, is that right?

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

On AWS to get a static IP and attach it to load balancer, you can use https://aws.amazon.com/global-accelerator/

Eamon Keane avatar
Eamon Keane

thanks @Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) I’ll give that a shot.

Eamon Keane avatar
Eamon Keane

hmm, so global accelerator gives multiple static ip addresses, but looks like nginx-ingress is only set up for one load-balancer ip address…. though I guess just choosing one might work with some loss of HA.

https://github.com/helm/charts/blob/master/stable/nginx-ingress/values.yaml#L243

helm/charts

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rohit avatar

Does anyone here use RDS IAM authentication feature ?

rohit avatar

I am trying to figure out if we would still have to generate token and use it in place of password when RDS IAM authentication is enabled

rohit avatar

If my app is running on ec2, can i just attach iam policy and can get rid of using password as a whole ?

rohit avatar

The documentation also says that the “The authentication token has a limited lifetime of 15 mins”, does that mean once the token is generated we have to use it with in 15 mins to make a connection

jose.amengual avatar
jose.amengual

yes you app will have to use the mariadb driver to deal with the token expiry

jose.amengual avatar
jose.amengual

so it will need to request a token every 15 min

rohit avatar

once a connection is made to the database, why does the app have to make connection every 15 mins using a new token ?

jose.amengual avatar
jose.amengual

because the token expires

jose.amengual avatar
jose.amengual

is like the password was changed

jose.amengual avatar
jose.amengual

the doc detail how to do it with some code examples

jose.amengual avatar
jose.amengual

and once you are using mariadb driver you can just delete all the other user not using the driver

jose.amengual avatar
jose.amengual

is a specific mysql driver that get installed in the mysql aurora server

jose.amengual avatar
jose.amengual

and you create the user in a specific way

2020-01-03

Brij S avatar

I have an ACM question, are the following certs the same? (I’m trying to understand what ‘additional names’ are for) cert a:

domain name: test.domain.com
additional name: *.test.domain.com

cert b:

domain name: *.test.domain.com
additional name: -
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

cert b will not cover [test.domain.com](http://test.domain.com)

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

just all subdomains

Brij S avatar

so for example, cert b will not cover test.domain.com but aaa.test.domain.com ?

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

Yes

Brij S avatar

so its more ideal to go with cert a?

Brij S avatar

essentially cert a will cover [test.domain.com](http://test.domain.com) and all subdomains?

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

yes, create it exactly as cert a

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

since you use star for subdomains (all of them) and if you use DNS validation, ACM will generate two exactly similar records to put into DNS zone

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

and since the records are the same, you can add just one of them and all will work

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

but, if you request a cert for test.domain.com and just for www.test.domain.com, then ACM will generate two different records, and you will need to put both of them into DNS

2020-01-07

Eamon Keane avatar
Eamon Keane

has anyone used Iam Roles for Service-Accounts with EKS and a cluster of just Managed Node Groups with the cluster-autoscaler (v1.14.7)?

The role has the required permissions and it is getting injected into autoscaler pod.

kskewes avatar
kskewes

Aren’t the details (role Arn) added as annotations to the service account (metadata)? Away from computer (on leave)..

Eamon Keane avatar
Eamon Keane

yes, I added it there. That gets picked up and then AWS have a mutating admission controller which injects the role and tokenfile to the pod.

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

we tested IAM roles for service accounts for EKS using managed Node Group https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-aws-eks-node-group. Worked great. Maybe this will help:

cloudposse/terraform-aws-eks-node-group

Terraform module to provision an EKS Node Group. Contribute to cloudposse/terraform-aws-eks-node-group development by creating an account on GitHub.

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

Here is the Role for external-dns:

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)
locals {
  eks_cluster_identity_oidc_issuer = replace(data.aws_ssm_parameter.eks_cluster_identity_oidc_issuer_url.value, "https://", "")
}


module "label" {
  source     = "git::<https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-null-label.git?ref=tags/0.16.0>"
  namespace  = var.namespace
  name       = var.name
  stage      = var.stage
  delimiter  = var.delimiter
  attributes = compact(concat(var.attributes, list("external-dns")))
  tags       = var.tags
}

resource "aws_iam_role" "default" {
  name               = module.label.id
  description        = "Role that can be assumed by external-dns"
  assume_role_policy = data.aws_iam_policy_document.assume_role.json

  lifecycle {
    create_before_destroy = true
  }
}

data "aws_iam_policy_document" "assume_role" {
  statement {
    actions = [
      "sts:AssumeRoleWithWebIdentity"
    ]

    effect = "Allow"

    principals {
      type        = "Federated"
      identifiers = [format("arn:aws:iam::%s:oidc-provider/%s", var.aws_account_id, local.eks_cluster_identity_oidc_issuer)]
    }

    condition {
      test     = "StringEquals"
      values   = [format("system:serviceaccount:%s:%s", var.kubernetes_service_account_namespace, var.kubernetes_service_account_name)]
      variable = format("%s:sub", local.eks_cluster_identity_oidc_issuer)
    }
  }
}

resource "aws_iam_role_policy_attachment" "default" {
  role       = aws_iam_role.default.name
  policy_arn = aws_iam_policy.default.arn

  lifecycle {
    create_before_destroy = true
  }
}

resource "aws_iam_policy" "default" {
  name        = module.label.id
  description = "Grant permissions for external-dns"
  policy      = data.aws_iam_policy_document.default.json
}
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

and here is how external-dns service account was annotated with that Role: https://github.com/cloudposse/helmfiles/pull/207/files#diff-40daec15ea9ebdc2aed4f62abba406c3R63

Add helmfile for EKS `external-dns` by aknysh · Pull Request #207 · cloudposse/helmfiles

what Add helmfile for EKS external-dns Activate RBAC Use Service Account for external-dns why Provision external-dns for EKS cluster (which is different from external-dns for kops) Use IAM Role …

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

after all of that was deployed and EKS started a few instances from Node Group, external-dns was able to assume the role and add records to Route53 for other services

Eamon Keane avatar
Eamon Keane

thanks, I’ll give that a try to see what I have different

Eamon Keane avatar
Eamon Keane

ugh.. needed to include fullnameOverride: "cluster-autoscaler" in helmfile - it autogenerates a different sa name, works now.

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
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2020-01-08

Nick V avatar

Anyone know how I can skip text when using parse on Cloudwatch Insights? I have parse message '* src="*" dst="*" msg="*" note="*" user="*" devID="*" cat="*"*' as _, src, dst, msg, note, user, devID, cat, other but I’d like to discard everything before src=

Nick V avatar

apparently there’s | display field1, field2 that filters out what fields insights diplays

Nick V avatar

(and it works on ephemeral fields created by parse )

2020-01-09

Igor avatar

I don’t see the Opt-In option for new ARN format in ECS

Igor avatar

Has anyone come across that before?

Igor avatar

I am getting “The new ARN and resource ID format must be enabled to add tags to the service. Opt in to the new format and try again.” from TF, but not sure how to resolve

Joe Hosteny avatar
Joe Hosteny

Just hit this same thing this morning. Solved with: aws ecs put-account-setting-default --name serviceLongArnFormat --value enabled

Igor avatar

Thanks

Bernhard Lenz avatar
Bernhard Lenz

I’m getting below error. Is this the right forum to ask for help?

terraform init
Initializing modules...
Downloading cloudposse/ecs-container-definition/aws 0.21.0 for ecs-container-definition...

Error: Failed to download module

Could not download module "ecs-container-definition" (ecs.tf:106) source code
from
"<https://api.github.com/repos/cloudposse/terraform-aws-ecs-container-definition/tarball/0.21.0//*?archive=tar.gz>":
Error opening a gzip reader for
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

we have no control over those tarball URLs

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

that’s the correct one provided by github

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

perhaps share your terraform code?

chrism avatar

Just started to get the same oddly

  source  = "terraform-aws-modules/autoscaling/aws"
  version = "~> 3.0"

odd

chrism avatar

in my case updating terraform from .16 to .19 seemed to correct it so maybe a blip or maybe something broke. Hard to tell

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@sarkis stop breaking things at HashiCorp cloud ;)

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

On a serious note, I wonder how GitHub feels about all the terraformers downloading tarballs of modules. Can you imagine the thousands and thousands of tarballs being requested per second!

chrism avatar

Microsoft can afford the bandwidth

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@Bernhard Lenz better to use #terraform

Bernhard Lenz avatar
Bernhard Lenz

Tx

2020-01-10

Nick V avatar

Anyone have experience with how much overhead RDS postgres multi-az adds? I was doing some testing on tiny instances and the added replication seemed to add a decent amount (20-30% CPU) but that was a tiny t3.small instance

joshmyers avatar
joshmyers

don’t use tiny instances.

Nick V avatar

We don’t, but I haven’t tried every instance type to see if that impact was only because it was so small or whether replication actually adds a decent bit of overhead

joshmyers avatar
joshmyers

Smaller instance types of anything aren’t going to give you an accurate impact assessment. How about you try using the instance types you are currently using in production.

Nick V avatar

The point of the question was to see if someone’s already done this

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

I don’t have an answer, but it seems a common complaint, explained in more detail: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47162231/rds-multi-az-bottlenecking-write-performance/50441734#50441734

RDS Multi-AZ bottlenecking write performance

We are using an RDS MySQL 5.6 instance (db.m3.2xlarge) on sa-east-1 region and during write intensive operations we are seeing (on CloudWatch) that both our Write Throughput and the Network Transmit

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

I suppose the amount of overhead would depend on many many factors: amount of data written, size of data written, randomness, io characteristics of the instance. The t3 class will probably be worst to use as a reference instance since they are burstable.

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

multi-AZ will always have (some) performance impact since Aurora does replication synchronously

David avatar

Say I upload to files to an S3 bucket for a website multiple times per day: index.html and some_file.some_cache_busting_string.js, and that the new version of index.html that is uploaded will always reference the most recent js file.

index.html is a much smaller file than the js file, so when I upload these files the html file will typically complete its upload first.

If someone visits my site during the time after the HTML is uploaded, but before the js finishes uploading, the page will fail to load.

I’m guessing I’m not the first person to experience this, so how do you all handle this?

rohit avatar

Do you have versioning enabled ?

rohit avatar

AFAIK, it would serve old version of js file if replacing js file is not completed

Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse) avatar
Andriy Knysh (Cloud Posse)

sounds like a good puzzle to solve :slightly_smiling_face: could be done by uploading files to S3 sequentially or using this in index.html (in onerror, try to load the old file) https://javascript.info/onload-onerror

kskewes avatar
kskewes

Hey team, am running a Hugo static site with the cloudposse CDN module with great results. Site is converted from a lamp stack minus the deprecated CMS. Looking to replace the phpmailer email form and came across this module. https://github.com/cloudposse/terraform-aws-ses-lambda-forwarder Wonder if I could stitch this and AWS API Gateway together to handle the form POST per a few blogs? Preferably in terraform but haven’t used these services before. Will need to find a way to avoid spam usage.

cloudposse/terraform-aws-ses-lambda-forwarder

This is a terraform module that creates an email forwarder using a combination of AWS SES and Lambda running the aws-lambda-ses-forwarder NPM module. - cloudposse/terraform-aws-ses-lambda-forwarder

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

I would recommend a js embed to replace the forms

cloudposse/terraform-aws-ses-lambda-forwarder

This is a terraform module that creates an email forwarder using a combination of AWS SES and Lambda running the aws-lambda-ses-forwarder NPM module. - cloudposse/terraform-aws-ses-lambda-forwarder

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

We use HubSpot

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

And outgrow

kskewes avatar
kskewes

Thanks Erik, been looking at formtree but looks like plenty about. Indeed seems a lot simpler.

kskewes avatar
kskewes

That was easy.. went with formtree, thanks heaps!

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2020-01-11

2020-01-12

s2504s avatar

Hi guys! I faced issue with ALB’ hard limit that is 1000 Targets per ALB. I tried to get targets that are belong to ALB using aws cli, but I did not found such option there. Did someone face this issue or make work around for it?

2020-01-13

Maxim Tishchenko avatar
Maxim Tishchenko

Hi guys, I have a question about EKS: You pay 0,20 USD per hour for each Amazon EKS cluster that you create (from https://aws.amazon.com/eks/pricing/) Is it apply for any type of eks confirmation (ec2, fargate ) ? Do you know why is it so expensive ? it is almost 144$/month. is it price for k8s service containers ?

TBeijen avatar
TBeijen

That’s the price for ‘just’ the control plane. Not cheap. Otoh, setting up a HA control plane on EC2 will likely set you back for something similar or higher.

Darren Cunningham avatar
Darren Cunningham

factor in the number hours that you’ll spend setting it up and keeping it running it’s inexpensive IMO

loren avatar

Maybe try EKS on Fargate, looks like you’re only charged for EKS as long as your pod is running

loren avatar

But yeah, that actually seems cheap to me too

Maxim Tishchenko avatar
Maxim Tishchenko

does this (HA control plane on EC2) mean that I have to remove eks and deploy my own k8s into EC2s?

Darren Cunningham avatar
Darren Cunningham

that being said, I don’t use EKS…my team is only running two containers (currently) so we’re using Fargate/ECS

TBeijen avatar
TBeijen

That would be the alternative, yes (e.g. using Kops). But e.g. 3 m5.large instances will be as expensive. And you’ll not be able to use EKS managed nodes or EKS Fargate.

Maxim Tishchenko avatar
Maxim Tishchenko

I’m using ECS as well, but I was starting to look into k8s, and I was unpleasantly surprised about price

Maxim Tishchenko avatar
Maxim Tishchenko

@TBeijen thank you.

loren avatar

eks price reduction just announced… https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/eks-price-reduction/

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Maxim Tishchenko avatar
Maxim Tishchenko

@loren wow, that great and just in time!!! thank you!

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2020-01-14

Igor Rodionov avatar
Igor Rodionov

Hi guys Have anyone experience with EMR auto scaling related to Presto app? We have errors in Presto when downscaling EMR, it looks like EMR does not support graceful shutdown for Presto because it is not managed by YARN. Is there any workaround? Are we doing something wrong?

Michael Coffey avatar
Michael Coffey

Does anyone know where I can find an example of using terraform to add a trigger to a lambda function? I found aws_lambda_event_source_mapping but it seems to only support event streaming from Kinesis, DynamoDB, and SQS. I want to add a trigger for changes in an S3 object.

Michael Coffey avatar
Michael Coffey

Thanks Joe!!

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

No worries. How are you finding deploying lambda functions with Terraform?

loren avatar

Love deploying lambda with terraform. It’s phenomenal. Especially when using the claranet/terraform-aws-lambda module

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

I shall look into that, thanks @loren. Have been looking for alternatives to the Serverless framework.

loren avatar

If you use api gateway extensively, then terraform is rather more involved to get working than serverless. But for basic lambda and integrating with other aws services, terraform is way better. And you can do api gateway also, you just need to really learn some of the complexities where serverless makes a lot of choices for you to simplify the basic interface

loren avatar

That’s been my takeaway from using both

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

Thank you for that. Current project involves kinesis stream consumers so it could work well.

2020-01-15

Joe Hosteny avatar
Joe Hosteny

Has anyone tried using the reference architecture with a .ai domain? You cannot register .ai domains in AWS. I am wondering if this would work if, after provisioning, the SOA record in the apex domain’s hosted zone were deleted, and name servers at the registrar pointed to the name servers in that same zone?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@Joe Hosteny haven’t tried… but don’t see why not? ref arch does not register TLD. it just creates the zones.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

so if you can create the zones, then it’s fine.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)


after provisioning, the SOA record in the apex domain’s hosted zone were deleted, and name servers at the registrar pointed to the name servers in that same zone?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

please share context (also lets use #geodesic)

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2020-01-17

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

Hey peeps

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

I am trying to add a config rule to Landing Zone so it can be created across accounts

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

There’s very few (if any) tutorials on LZ - all I see are videos and articles on why LZ is good and what it does and its advantages, but barely any meaningful examples

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

so my CodePipieline pipelines are passing after adding the custom config rule to some template

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

I have also added the lambda that should get invoked (both source code and definition in the template) as well as the permissions required to execute the lambda

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

After the pipeline executes successfully (which takes forever to complete), the resources are still not created and at this point, I am not sure what it is that I need to understand between cloudformation and LZ

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

It’s hard to troubleshoot when everything is passing

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

Any pointers to some resource which can help me understand LZ like a 5 year old?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@Mike Crowe any resources you found helpful?

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

@Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) not really, just some assistance from a friend who explained the manifest file. Still learning the ropes - info seems scanty on it

Michael Warkentin avatar
Michael Warkentin

Nice little extension from a coworker: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/amazon-web-search/

Lets you create a shortcut to open up the AWS console service list / search bar - and most importantly lets you hit esc to close it

Amazon Web Search – Get this Extension for :fox_face: Firefox (en-US)attachment image

Download Amazon Web Search for Firefox. Hotkey for opening AWS search.

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Mike Crowe
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2020-01-18

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

@Mike Crowe sound familiar?

Mike Crowe avatar
Mike Crowe

Ha ha btdt

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

AWS NAT gateways are stupidly expensive for what they do

Mike Crowe avatar
Mike Crowe

And not documented in control tower

2020-01-19

Chris Fowles avatar
Chris Fowles

i have to think that they’re just spinning up multiple ec2 instances to do NAT or something like that - for the price that you pay it would have to be something supper inefficient

mfridh avatar

Was thinking about this the other day… at least modifying my terraform so that the “spoke” VPCs just get a solo NAT gateway instead of 3x… but then I guess you start paying cross-AZ for 2 thirds of egress traffic anyway so I dunno

2020-01-20

loren avatar

can also use transit gateway to route egress traffic through one vpc, and just pay for one set of nat gateways

maarten avatar
maarten

EC2 instances doing NAT i think

2020-01-21

2020-01-22

Abel Luck avatar
Abel Luck

hey folks, a client of mine is using the AWS SSO to manage all access creds. I’m having some trouble finding a nice solution for using this with terraform.

Abel Luck avatar
Abel Luck

Currently I am logging into the aws sso page, choosing the aws account, clicking “Command line or programmatic access” and copy pasting the provided env vars into my shell.

Abel Luck avatar
Abel Luck

I have to do this every hour

Abel Luck avatar
Abel Luck

Both aws-vault and terraform have tickets open about AWS SSO, but has anyone come up with a decent workaround?

Dzhuneyt avatar
Dzhuneyt

AWS recommends that we give access/secret keys only to physical users. Machines or systems should instead assume IAM roles (e.g. an EC2 instance should never use access keys passed as environment variables).

However, how does this best practice work in real life when the system that communicates with AWS is a third party one (e.g. GitHub actions). Can I make a GitHub Actions CI pipeline communicate with AWS APIs without creating an IAM user for it? After all, GitHub is a machine, not a human. It should use IAM roles, right?

aaratn avatar

AWS means to do that in AWS eco-system. If you have a custom github runner in aws you can use IAM role

Dzhuneyt avatar
Dzhuneyt

So if I use a real third party solution like Jenkins, GitHub actions, CircleCI - I have no other option but to resort to IAM users and secret keys per provider?

aaratn avatar

Yes

vFondevilla avatar
vFondevilla

Yup

loren avatar

did you try aws-cli v2, and its new integration with aws sso? login with that to get the creds for the profile, then run terraform? https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cli/latest/userguide/cli-configure-sso.html

If your organization uses AWS Single Sign-On (AWS SSO), your users can sign in to Active Directory, a built-in AWS SSO directory, or another iDP connected to AWS SSO and get mapped to an AWS Identity and Access Management (IAM) role that enables you to run AWS CLI commands. Regardless of which iDP you use, AWS SSO abstracts those distinctions away, and they all work with the AWS CLI as described below. For example, you can connect Microsoft Azure AD as described in the blog article

Abel Luck avatar
Abel Luck

I ended up using aws cli v2 with a little wrapper https://github.com/linaro-its/aws2-wrap

Replaces aws-vault in my normal setup

linaro-its/aws2-wrap

Simple script to export current AWS SSO credentials or run a sub-process with them - linaro-its/aws2-wrap

Joe Hosteny avatar
Joe Hosteny

Depending on your integration, one thing you can also consider is having some privileged task inside your infra deliver STS credentials to the third party service.

Joe Hosteny avatar
Joe Hosteny

That means your infra code has to have creds to the service, but that may be more palatable

loren avatar

may be able to use the credential_process feature of the aws shared config file to retrieve temporary creds, if the integration is running in something that gives you that kind of access, https://docs.aws.amazon.com/cli/latest/userguide/cli-configure-sourcing-external.html

If you have a method to generate or look up credentials that isn’t directly supported by the AWS CLI, you can configure the CLI to use it by configuring the credential_process setting in the config file.

rohit avatar

what is the best way to implement API authentication for REST API built in nodejs (not AWS Gateway) ?

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

Most people use passport.js

rohit avatar

yeah i noticed that

rohit avatar

Little background - our apps are deployed in AWS but the APIs are not deployed to AWS gateway

rohit avatar

so all our apps need to talk to our APIs

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

Passport is the right choice for api authentication in node

rohit avatar

currently we have these APIs sitting in private layer

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

what do you mean by private layer?

rohit avatar

private subnet

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

how does your web app JS access them?

rohit avatar

so the app is deployed in public subnet and it has access to the APIs sitting in private subnet

rohit avatar

using security groups

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

I think you’re referring to server-to-server API calls?

rohit avatar

yes

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

Passport is still fine. The passport-localapikey strategy is a simple option.

http://www.passportjs.org/packages/

rohit avatar

thanks for your suggestion

rohit avatar

i would like to also understand how complex would it be to use AWS API gateway

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

With the new HTTP API feature (in beta though) it’s not too bad but your API will still need to generate JWT’s

Joe Niland avatar
Joe Niland

If you use REST API you could require an API key on certain methods or use a custom authoriser or require a certain request header. There are lots of options. It just depends on your needs.

rohit avatar

yeah i was looking at HTTP API

rohit avatar

any ideas and thoughts are appreciated

2020-01-23

Maciek Strömich avatar
Maciek Strömich

https://awsapichanges.info/ - not sure if anyone else posted it earlier

Maciek Strömich avatar
Maciek Strömich
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Chris Fowles avatar
Chris Fowles

am i nuts or is cloudwatch synthetics really really expensive

Chris Fowles avatar
Chris Fowles

i’m calculating $73.44‬/month for a single per 1 minute check

Rob Rose avatar
Rob Rose

Looks like it’s just really expensive. Checkout Example 10 on https://aws.amazon.com/cloudwatch/pricing/

Chris Fowles avatar
Chris Fowles

That seems really uncompetitive. There are so many options in this space

Chris Fowles avatar
Chris Fowles

for some of our micro services we’d be looking at spending 4x for checks than we do for running the service!

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

In general, cloudwatch is expensive.

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Even metrics cost something like $0.30/metric

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

when you combine that with k8s, with has like 10,000 metrics, it’s easy to spend more on the monitoring than you would for a small cluster.

kskewes avatar
kskewes

Yeah our Prometheus metrics in cloud watch would be like be 100k month.

Chris Fowles avatar
Chris Fowles

@ $0.0017 per canary run

David avatar

Just found an SES rule that was sending to an s3 bucket that used to exist, but no longer does. Is there any way to retrieve the emails it missed in the meantime?

Maciek Strömich avatar
Maciek Strömich

depending on your aws support level you may try to ask aws uspport and maybe they will be able to help. I wouldn’t bet they are but there’s always a chance

2020-01-24

Igor avatar

Has anybody run to issues with Internal DNS not resolving correctly for ECS Service Discovery? I can see the correct IP in Route53 with TTL of 60, but it’s not being picked up

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

You application doesn’t pick it up?

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

What is your zones SOA TTL?

Igor avatar

My application doesn’t, but I also tried pinging it elsewhere, and it’s also giving me the wrong ip

Igor avatar

SOA TTL is 900

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

So I would cut SOA to 30 just in general

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Because that acts like a negative cache

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

So if the record is queried before it exists and the response is not found, that negative response will be cached for for SOA TTL

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Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

But what you are describing sounds like it could be something else.

Igor avatar

AWS Cloud Map service is magically supposed to manage these mappings

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

Since you are getting an IP back but the wrong one, it doesn’t have to do with the SOA

Igor avatar

First time I ran into an issue with it

Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse) avatar
Erik Osterman (Cloud Posse)

I don’t have experience with that service so someone else here might know more like @maarten

Igor avatar

Bah, just noticed Route53 operational issue alert in the AWS console

Igor avatar

Been going on for over 2 hours too. SMH. Please tell me this almost never happens.

2020-01-27

caretak3r avatar
caretak3r

#aws anyone have experience dealing with aws state machines? specifically, a missing state machine after a cloudformation (landing-zone) update, and my avm (vending machine) plays fail.

2020-01-28

Michel avatar

hello, anyone using private aws gateway api with custom host header? Thanks

maarten avatar
maarten

no but have you thought of using an ALB with lambda hooks instead ?

davidvasandani avatar
davidvasandani

@Michel I think we may be doing that right now. We’re doing cross VPC and cross account access with a R53 private zone to a private ALB to a private API gateway. The ALB is required for cross account access otherwise the API Gateway could be shared cross VPC (same account) with just a VPC Endpoint.

2020-01-29

Blaise Pabon avatar
Blaise Pabon

Since VPCs are limited in my environment, I naively thought I could just kops cluster create a new cluster inside my existing VPC. (with this snippet). Then it blew up because of subnet conflicts and I could see where this was going. Most of the TF vpc modules I see expect to create a new one…. Should I: • terraform import the VPC resource, • manually replace vpc.vpc_id with something in var.vpc_id • stop overthinking this and use some kops flag I don’t yet know about ?

grv avatar

Usual approach I follow with KOPS is to create VPC and other aws reosurces using terraform and then use kops to create the actual cluster (just like you are doing). I however split the subnets cidr’s accordingly when creating the VPC from tf. In your case, I guess if you are planning to use the vpc, terraform import might help. Not sure if this helps you though

Blaise Pabon avatar
Blaise Pabon

@grv Thanks for the validation, I’m more confident now. So I guess could maybe run TF against the existing VPC and have it carve out the subnets, security-groups, etc, then run kops to stich them together into a cluster.

grv avatar

That would make sense, but I have a feeling you might run into some kind of trouble while trying to play around existing cloud resources using tf. Again, saying maybe

Alejandro Rivera avatar
Alejandro Rivera

Hi, has anyone deployed EKS on me-south-1 and successfully interacted with the cluster via kubectl getting credentials using aws sts assume-role ?

2020-01-30

joshmyers avatar
joshmyers

Yes, same as other regions…

GFox)(AWSDevSecOps avatar
GFox)(AWSDevSecOps

Looking for simple condition to set in EC2 instance template with ALB, that will hold the 2nd (HA instance being deployed) so I can get the first up with some manual config running then remove condition to lauch the instanceB

2020-01-31

dan841 avatar

Hello, I’ve used the AWS landing zone pattern for a while but just wondering how others use the shared account for things like Vault? I.e put Vault in here or separate account? Also usage pattern - 1 Vault for dev/prod or 2 separate installations…Just wondering what others have done…cheers

joshmyers avatar
joshmyers

I’ve always gone with a Vault cluster per environment

joshmyers avatar
joshmyers

Deployed into the same account unless it is a break-glass type scenario

dan841 avatar

That’s an option, I was thinking we will have multiple prod accounts so a shared prod Vault cluster would be another way

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

Hey people

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

I have a question for AWS gurus

Saichovsky avatar
Saichovsky

How do I use the PutOrganizationConfigRule API in Landing Zone to create an organization config rule?

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/config/latest/APIReference/API_PutOrganizationConfigRule.html

Adds or updates organization config rule for your entire organization evaluating whether your AWS resources comply with your desired configurations. Only a master account can create or update an organization config rule.

Igor avatar

Going to try this channel as well. Does anyone know if ECS provides an SNS topic to subscribe to events like updating service, tasks starting/stopping, autoscaling events?

joshmyers avatar
joshmyers

I don’t believe so

joshmyers avatar
joshmyers

In this tutorial, you set up a simple AWS Lambda function that listens for Amazon ECS task events and writes them out to a CloudWatch Logs log stream.

Igor avatar

I guess, if that’s the only option. Thanks

joshmyers avatar
joshmyers

Looks like it only gives you “ECS Task State Change”, “ECS Container Instance State Change” triggers

Steven avatar

Unless they’ve adding something since I last looked. You subscribe a lambda to the event. The lambda needs to parse to figure out what the change was, then run your logic for that change type.

Steven avatar

At that point whether you send to SNS or do anything else is up to you

Igor avatar

Thanks @joshmyers @Steven

Steven avatar

Not great. It needs finer events

timduhenchanter avatar
timduhenchanter

How are people dealing with upgrading minor versions of Kubernetes in EKS in large clusters?

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